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197433.23 in reply to 197433.12
Date: 10/1/2011 9:15:13 AM
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the way things are going PF. but the position really doesn't matter that much. what matters is what do you really expect of him.


Train OD to 12-13 at the very least. This will take you roughly a season (yes, it's real slow for a 6'9). At the same time, ID may rise to 10. Then train RB. With his potential, his sky is unlimited, if you are patient enough.


- this is what you should start off with. Imo, after some rebounding throw in some 1v1 and passing. It's very easy to make a high salary (useless) monster, but it's damn hard and long to train a successful well rounded player

If it were me(and this is just me). For the next for seasons it would be:
1.OD
2.ID
3.1v1
4.PA

If you do this you'll end up with a guy that looks something like this:

JS 11 JR 7
OD ~14 HA 19
DR 20 PA ~10
IS 16 ID 17
RB 6 SB 5

Best position PF, projected salary about 60k.


The picture you're painting here is a clear example of overestimating trainingspeed. The guy won't look like this by far, with this training regime


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197433.24 in reply to 197433.16
Date: 10/1/2011 9:19:25 AM
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Normally a SG, however if you really draft that wonderful PF, making him a outside oriented SF would be a possibility. However just waiting till the draft to see what you're getting is better. Who knows his skills demand a other regime.


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197433.25 in reply to 197433.23
Date: 10/1/2011 9:51:55 AM
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The picture you're painting here is a clear example of overestimating trainingspeed. The guy won't look like this by far, with this training regime


I'm not sure what to say, may be i am overestimating OD and PA, but otherwise things should go just well, i can't say I'm a veteran of the game, but I've trained quite a lot, and training speeds seemed to be on target.


so you saying training speed decline different, for every skill?

that's exactly what I'm saying. It seemed to me that Rebounding went well even for older players(I got see this even for the fact that you see 6 guys at once), however other skills like OD, JS, ID, seemed to be affected much more by age. It seems to me that it's quite normal for training speed to decline differently from skill to skill

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197433.28 in reply to 197433.22
Date: 10/3/2011 5:11:09 AM
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I did some 1-on-1 for forwards.. I am entirely unhappy how well he progressed over the season with a lvl 6 trainer..

Between () his starting skills..

Jump Shot: proficient (respectable +2)
Jump Range: average (average)
Outside Def.: strong (respectable +1)
Handling: average (inept +2)
Driving: proficient (average +2)
Passing: respectable (respectable)
Inside Shot: strong (respectable +1)
Inside Def.: average (average)
Rebounding: pitiful (pitful)
Shot Blocking: mediocre (mediocre)
Stamina: inept (Awful +1)
Free Throw: average (average)

So 9 pops this season..


Actually 10 pops, there are three pops in DR (respectable, strong, proficient).

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197433.29 in reply to 197433.27
Date: 10/3/2011 6:13:33 AM
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I think what the guy was saying about Rebounding is it trains so fast that with the same decline as other skills, it still isn't all that slow. For 2 position training, I believe rebounding pops faster than anything else in the game. When you train rebounding, you can train 5 guys pretty easily...so having one 26 year old who pops, say, every 3 weeks isn't too bad.


But in terms of training speed it wouldnt make an difference, if he means it like that. IF he starts with rebounding or make it at the end. Maybe it makes more fun when you have more a constant number of pops, if you train it at end.

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197433.30 in reply to 197433.15
Date: 10/3/2011 10:51:15 AM
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thank you so much for your advice. So you think keep the rebounding as is and work on everything else is the best solution? I am currently using a lvl 5 trainer, and with your skills as posted he should reach that by the age of 26. Is this too old to train RB then?

Thanks

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197433.31 in reply to 197433.30
Date: 10/3/2011 12:12:01 PM
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I would say no. I have trained 26 yo players, and i got a pop every 3-4 weeks(which is ok considering the age).


Cheers.

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197433.32 in reply to 197433.1
Date: 10/4/2011 1:14:30 AM
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I think he makes a better PF prospect. For his guard skills, I'd aim to take his JR up to around 9, OD to between 10-12, PA around 8-9 and JS to 12+. That's between 13-16 pops and could take a while, but you should be able to get at least a couple of the JS pops while training 1v1 for Forwards, and either get the JR pops as secondaries to JS or vice versa.

A PF with skills of 12+/9/11/14+/14+/8 14+/14+/12+/sad-little-number+ would be very achievable by the time he's 23 and valuable for a long time. That also leaves you a couple of decent seasons where you can round him out to your liking while getting a start on some younger trainees.

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197433.33 in reply to 197433.19
Date: 10/4/2011 1:23:58 AM
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I agree with another poster that your guy is probably best as a SG with a nice inside skill set, but he's definitely trainable as a SF, but with a deficiency in RB.

Whether it's a good idea to train him in more outside skills along with a PF draftee strongly depends on the draftee. I don't see a big problem with getting things like OD, JR and PA up on a taller player while he's getting his fastest training to counteract the height slowdown, as long as he isn't starting off with anything at unrecoverably low levels.

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