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207964.23 in reply to 207964.22
Date: 2/5/2012 4:00:28 PM
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toroo beeing dominate wasn't a micronation scenario, yes he had a economic advantage but i would say this advantage come from the B3 himself and the championship bonus in his country(which Bulls and Springfield also had most times in there country).

I would say there the B3 was more the key for the dominance at club level, since the price was bigger then today for the good teams, and all teams made or could made money easily(italy lost space since they didn't build up there arena at some time).

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207964.24 in reply to 207964.23
Date: 2/5/2012 4:41:54 PM
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toroo beeing dominate wasn't a micronation scenario,

his opponents(except Random Noise) team rating,were
look at the ratings of the losing teams against championship winners

semifinals season 6 Toroo vs Boston
(8300218) vs (8265572)
semifinals season 7 Toroo vs Joyo(Italian serie A winner)
(10537151) vs (10501558)
semifinals season 8 Toroo vs Springfield
(12927012) vs (12890730)

and so on

Last edited by Steve Karenn at 2/5/2012 4:49:46 PM

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207964.25 in reply to 207964.24
Date: 2/5/2012 4:48:59 PM
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toroo beeing dominate wasn't a micronation scenario,

his opponents(except Random Noise) team rating,were


even when you forget to quote it, he payed a roster which would have won in other leagues too. And maybe you could the point for italy, i don't know how deep it was but in germany the lost money through lost away games wouldn't be so high to make a big difference.

he didn't got extra money in playing with lower salary then the other team on the big stages, with div 1 income since he had the best and most likely most expensiv roster of those teams ;)

Last edited by CrazyEye at 2/5/2012 4:51:12 PM

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207964.26 in reply to 207964.25
Date: 2/5/2012 4:50:48 PM
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I'm not questioning toroo,but his opposition that was kinda weak.Check out my previous post that I've modified inserting some examples of this

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207964.27 in reply to 207964.26
Date: 2/5/2012 4:53:51 PM
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yes but it don't make difference, since he payed higher salarys(or higher transfer sums) to get the best team in the world.(i already put that in mine edit)

So his weaker enemies maybe give him easy wins, but but he would win in italy too with the same income scheme he had in italy(don't forget younger team also produce less visitor income at your arena, which should make up to the few away looses) i am quite sure.

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207964.29 in reply to 207964.27
Date: 2/5/2012 5:39:00 PM
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When a team has 3 competitive games/week,this team can't always put on the floor the best line-up,so he has to give-up something in 1 games/week,and it could happen thet because of that they lose against some weaker teams
But,with the level of competition that there was in Canada at time,Toroo never had 3 difficult games in a week,and they could win easily games in the championship or in the national cup against team of the highest divisions,even putting on the floor the reserve team,while this wasn't possible for a team in germany or in italy.

it would have been harder to build that kind of economic advantage that bring Toroo to build that kind of team that could beat every other team in the BB world

And I agree with moutlinho too,there were many managers that had the conditions to do what Toroo manager did,but no one was as good as Toroo manager in those countries.Still,top managers of countries with greater competition,got diasdvantaged

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207964.30 in reply to 207964.22
Date: 2/5/2012 8:19:41 PM
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To say Random Noise wasn't at Torooo's level is ridiculous, no one was at Torooo's level , the man won 4 straight B3's

Example...

Season 6 Canadian Finals: (8395438)

Season 6 B3 Quarter finals: (8095678)

Just looked through the season 6-9 B3 elimination stages and Torooo had two(yes two!) single digit victories in the entire time, the season 6 finals against Drunkers, and a season 9 QF game against KDB.

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207964.31 in reply to 207964.1
Date: 2/5/2012 8:26:08 PM
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All I have to bring to this thread:

He is on his way back guys. (42712476). 3 seasons to get to div II.

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207964.32 in reply to 207964.30
Date: 2/5/2012 11:11:24 PM
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and he had a deep roster, so maybe the point that he could play a short rotation cause of his small nation.

For me that have something todo with being smart and fast, which was the base for his succes.

Today beeing a small country club, really have many other strategic choiches then a mid size or big country(pro and cons, while sadly a small form of tanking and still beeing succesful on national stage is the pro).

Last edited by CrazyEye at 2/5/2012 11:12:52 PM

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207964.33 in reply to 207964.28
Date: 2/6/2012 2:19:39 AM
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