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Date: 3/6/2013 11:21:16 PM
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Since SF is position with highest possibility of mismatch, what would your ideal SF look like, lets say with 125 SP.

Also, what guard skill on a big man do you value the most (feel free to give a list 1-6) and which inside skill do you feel is most important for guards. Would you prefer to have shooting PG or high passing and defensive stopper?

And how do you plan to convince managers to train multiskills (just stating that they are effective and salary efficient is not enough). Would you provide some guidelines for fully trained player on individual positions or would you just be happy with posting a post on a forum and waiting for managers with interesting players to contact you?

well, for now it sums it up :D

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Date: 3/7/2013 12:13:51 AM
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ill reply to all the questions tomorrow since I have not the time.

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Date: 3/7/2013 12:30:42 AM
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Smoking dope while watching Pinky and the Brain again huh?? Where are your priorities man?

Vote for jfarb.

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Date: 3/7/2013 12:57:22 AM
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No wait sorry that was me in high school.

Still vote for jfarb.

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Date: 3/7/2013 3:01:52 PM
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Honestly. EAK is still our number 1, even at 33 for at least another season, maybe two. I dont think we will need to worry too much on the SF issue until next term. However, at that point our younger SFs should have developed enough to be more than good enough for the big stage. If not, we have plenty of SFs that are specialized either inside or outside and a couple of balanced SFs. I will most likely be saving a spot for EAK and two SF callups throughout the season since I expect we might need an inside oriented SF or an outside oriented SF. We also have many PFs with the ability to play SF in a LI offense. Some names I can throw around: Hall, Chretien, Fairchild, Labbe, Cutler, Thomas, even Lacroix is still looking decent.

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Date: 3/7/2013 3:04:04 PM
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Honestly I have tried. Its difficult and requires a lot of commitment. Contests, write-ups and nagging seem to be the only way I can develop interest and even then its only temporary.

I think developing a large depth chart open to the ECU community will get people with prospects trying to improve their player, trying to get in discussions and others without prospects to get those players on the list.

Obviously having success during the season will generate interest and an Americas Championship should do the trick :)

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Date: 3/7/2013 3:06:53 PM
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My opinion regarding mTIEs has always been the same. I am going to do what I feel is best for the team despite what I respond. If someone offers a mTIE and I know that the team can win on +1 effort and can spare the enthusiasm. I will tell that person that I agree and I will play a normal. I will do whatever is going to benefit Canada the most. I know it may seem unethical and unsportsmanlike, but asking someone for a mTIE in the first place is the same thing. Im just returning the favour!

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Date: 3/7/2013 3:19:12 PM
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Since SF is position with highest possibility of mismatch, what would your ideal SF look like, lets say with 125 SP.


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Canada is going to old reliable, LI/MtM after trying many times to become a team that uses different tactics. With that we need SFs that can score inside. I would even be willing to drop a couple pops in JR and add some IS to this guy. Inside SFs are crucial right now.

Also, what guard skill on a big man do you value the most (feel free to give a list 1-6)

PA/HA/JS/DR/OD/JR(1/2/3/4/5/6)

I don't want my big men shooting much, considering the goto offence will be LI. High PA and HA on big men will reduce TOs considering they will have the ball most of the game on offense. JS and DR will help to take advantage of the monoskilled donkeys and OD will help against PF type big men*. JR is definitely the least valuable as our big men will rarely be far away from the basket.

*For PFs I would move OD ahead of JS.

which inside skill do you feel is most important for guards.

If I am allowed to make a 1-4 list:
IS/REB/ID/SB(1/2/3/4)

IS is pretty much free and can turn a guard into the X-Factor in a LI offence if the other teams ID is stopping the big men. Having REB at all 5 positions can make a huge difference as REB is the only rating that is effected by all 5 positions. It is expensive on guards, but thats for a reason. ID since everyone realizes that guards have IS nowadays. SB is usueless currently, however the GE change might change that :)

Would you prefer to have shooting PG or high passing and defensive stopper?

High passing and defensive stopper. No question about it. The PGs job on the team would be to find the players to score and to stop the other teams PG from doing the same. IS on the guard is the only type of offense I would want since that can turn them into an X-Factor again :P

And how do you plan to convince managers to train multiskills (just stating that they are effective and salary efficient is not enough). Would you provide some guidelines for fully trained player on individual positions or would you just be happy with posting a post on a forum and waiting for managers with interesting players to contact you?


I think Canada has been doing great in this category for a while. We rarely get the monoskilled donkeys and if we do, they don't play. People have noticed that and have been training multiskills on all players.

I plan on keeping tabs on all prospects and making sure managers dont train players who are monoskilled both for Canadas benefit and their benefit.

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Date: 3/7/2013 3:44:29 PM
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Honestly. EAK is still our number 1, even at 33 for at least another season, maybe two. I dont think we will need to worry too much on the SF issue until next term.


This will completely depend on how quickly he starts losing his skills. Some players once they hit 33 start deteriorating quickly, others (I would argue most) deteriorate at a much slower rate. I had one player that lost 4 skill levels the first 3 weeks after he turned 33. I couldn't sell him quick enough. It's another hidden attribute that is built into each player.

What do Hall's skills look like now? I remember a few seasons back it looked like he might bet the NT SF of the future but I guess he plays almost exclusively at PF now. Most of those other SF's you named shouldn't be anywhere near a top 10 NT IMO.

Last edited by Beener not Beanerz at 3/7/2013 3:44:46 PM

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