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239972.23 in reply to 239972.11
Date: 4/15/2013 4:21:00 PM
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I think about:

9000
5000
500
40

good plan for my arena? :)

Definitely very bad plan ;-)
At least before promotion.
There is no sense to build 5000 lower tiers in 4th division because it seems impossible to fulfil so many seats in Your league. Keep in mind that the lowest possible price for lower tier ticket is $ 18, it's still quite expensive in D.IV.
I think it would be hard to sell 5k tickets even in 3rd division (in fact I have problem to sell 5k lower tiers even in 2nd division when I lost previous game although my price $ 21 is close to minimal). And even if You sell so many seats then additional profit is very low because it's difference between price for lower tier and for bleachers, so it isn't $ 18 but maybe $ 10. And real profit is still smaller because You need to lower price for whole sector, not only for new seats, so Your profit from old seats is smaller.

From: tykit

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239972.24 in reply to 239972.23
Date: 4/15/2013 5:54:20 PM
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Hi everybody
I've read many interesting things in this thread ! So i'm quite curious to know what do you think about my situation.
I've been expanding my arena all last season long (+ previous one a bit) and i'm at 9000 / 1000 / 100 / 5.
I'm in french, d.V (a quite tough one), and i'm training a very nice draftee + 2 other ones. I'm not planning to promote this season (maybe next one...).
So my questions are :
should i stop for a while or keep on building it up ?
if i keep on, should i reach the 15k bleachers first ? or should i spend on more lower tier ? (because their affluence doesn't change as much as bleachers depending on teams results)

From: lawrenman

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239972.25 in reply to 239972.24
Date: 4/15/2013 6:17:07 PM
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I would go no more than 12,000 bleachers for div 5.

12,000
1,500
300
17
This would be a good set for you. I would probably build 12 more luxury and then set the price for 400. Then 200 more courtside and looking around 60 price? I can't remember.

Also look at some of the leaders of your country in Div 5. See how they price tickets. $6 for 9000 seats seems cheap. I think I was charging 7 or 8 and was selling out 9600 last season. $6 tickets is probably a right price for 13,000 seats.

Just make sure you have a good enough roster as well to win your div next season. If you have to, hire some 32+ older guys early next season just make sure they are good players so you can get out of Div5.

From: tykit

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239972.27 in reply to 239972.25
Date: 4/15/2013 6:55:12 PM
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Thanks for your answers guys!
If i got you right, the main issue of what you guys say is : "get out of div.V !" :°)

Adjust price tickets to get more $ -> spend them on "good" 30yo players -> get to div. IV -> Use promotion bonus to expand more (1200/1500/300/12) -> adjust ticket prices -> get "better" 30 yo -> promote ... and so on !
Sounds clear and nice !

Cheers

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239972.29 in reply to 239972.26
Date: 4/16/2013 4:18:08 AM
Jeorgians
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hey GM-Perpete
just to clear it out, "bonus" attendance for newly promoted team is for one season or one year??
my eyes glow wide when i read ONE SEASON. lol.

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239972.31 in reply to 239972.24
Date: 4/16/2013 7:00:26 AM
Woodbridge Wreckers
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Building bleachers if you're in a low division is best I think, since you'll be at the top of your division (even if you don't promote I assume). I always check what prices you can ask to fill your seats; the ones that can handle the highest price compared to the base price is best to build (most return for the cost).

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239972.33 in reply to 239972.31
Date: 4/16/2013 9:10:46 AM
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Woodbridge>

I tend to think of expansions differently. At first I thought as you did that the higher the price the more you want of the seats. But then it dawned on me. If you sell 100 seats for $200 per that's 20,000. If you sell 200 seats at $120 per that's 24,000. So 4,000/100 =$40. So each extra seat from 100-200 = a profit of $40 per. It will take roughly 50 weeks to get back the initial investment if the seats cost $2000 each.

The only time when you get a better return on investment is when you are selling out. If you are going to have 2-3 more weeks before you can change prices, then when you build you will get an immediate return on investment for whatever price you sell for for a few weeks until the next price adjustment. So for example I added 1200 bleachers at 200 per. Because I was selling at 10 each, I was able to take a week where each extra seat earned 10. This is 1/20th of the original investment.

The predicatability of courtside and luxury box seats makes it better to build these early IMO. That way you can set the price easier and be close to selling out or selling out which is what you want.

Arena expansions only pay for themselves if the pricing is accurate. If you over/underprice considerably than it takes a lot of the gains out of the expansions.

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