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250719.23 in reply to 250719.22
Date: 11/15/2013 1:33:03 AM
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Speaking of Look inside in general, I have a somewhat related question (to all). Creators were always dragging about shot blocking, though most people were never focusing on that skill. I would imagine interior defense is the most important thing in wishing to stop look inside. And the reason why look inside is OP, might be the fact majority of bigs in this entire game, are insignificant shot blockers, meaning their interior is insignificant as well? Are there people who have dominant shot blockers? How you stack against LI?-u will/


In my personal opinion you need at least 9-11 sb to stop low caliber Li team.. You need that on your bench players as well. I trained interior defense on all my players and all I got was injuries. I don't think interior defense is the cure, if they have good passer and top notch inside men, sb does not matter.Im getting 10-12 block a game.

I don't know what you need to have to be honest. Im assume 15+ is effective.. I just know the more sb you attain the more fouls/injures. Also it problematic to play players with Gs decline and etc.. This just my view of what happening to me. I'm looking for answer my self

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250719.24 in reply to 250719.23
Date: 11/15/2013 10:18:51 AM
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In my personal opinion you need at least 9-11 sb to stop low caliber Li team.. You need that on your bench players as well. I trained interior defense on all my players and all I got was injuries. I don't think interior defense is the cure, if they have good passer and top notch inside men, sb does not matter.Im getting 10-12 block a game.


In my personal opinion, you're wrong. I fare pretty well defensively against LI at a much higher level than you're currently complaining about, and I have one guard with 8 SB, one backup C with 8 SB, and nobody else above 6. The non-ID skill that you want to push into double digits on your big men to slow down LI is OD, period.

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250719.25 in reply to 250719.24
Date: 11/15/2013 8:51:08 PM
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you play li . you don't have a outside shooting team. Don't give the Princeton tactic speech because that cutting to back side of the basket .big man passing open mid range jumper

look dude I have all of players training shot block,also inside defense.. I said big men need at least 9-11 to b e effiective versus lower caliber team. Where do saying higher caliber tem. Your one man does not win all your games.?

gradzik
Inside Def.: average
Sht Bloccking: respectable

christastiasson
Inside Def.: proficient
Shot Blocking: mediocre

those are 2 my guards.. you have 1 man like I have 3 with none below a 5 in Id.. None of my big men have shot blocking under a 9 , or inside defense under a 10. You can disagree but your team in not the truth for all team season success neither is mines. sb don't mean a damn on this game, it the offensive output that does... You play Li ,I don't.. thats the difference maker. Thats why your guard is effective

If what you say is the truth then I should be unbeaten. Am i not in the lower div . go check the season stats im getting 10-12 sb a game in the real world that seals a game. Sb it does not mean a dam, only inside big man offensive play does. Guard inside defense don't matter either only od does. this game has height mis match.

You can dis agree that's fine but I already been where talking. Its been try'd

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250719.26 in reply to 250719.25
Date: 11/15/2013 9:52:29 PM
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you play li . you don't have a outside shooting team. Don't give the Princeton tactic speech because that cutting to back side of the basket .big man passing open mid range jumper


That's the biggest miss since "Dewey Defeats Truman." I have one starter that has double digit IS - a whopping 11. And one backup that has double digits - 13. Everyone else is single digits in IS. I have more players with 8+ JR than 8+ IS.

you have 1 man like I have 3 with none below a 5 in Id.. None of my big men have shot blocking under a 9 , or inside defense under a 10. You can disagree but your team in not the truth for all team season success neither is mines. sb don't mean a damn on this game, it the offensive output that does... You play Li ,I don't.. thats the difference maker. Thats why your guard is effective


And you completely missed my point entirely. You're talking about shot blocking, and I'm suggesting that you're looking at the wrong stat. It's not SB that you need on your big men, it's OD. Yes, OD. Not a typo. Get double digit OD on your big men and level-appropriate ID, and you'll do just fine defensively against LI.

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250719.27 in reply to 250719.26
Date: 11/16/2013 7:44:18 PM
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im not trying to be rude. But Li is an inside tactic why would a big man need outside defense. when the guards has od.. it not like li is pulling the big man to the 3pt line.

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250719.28 in reply to 250719.27
Date: 11/16/2013 8:55:40 PM
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im not trying to be rude. But Li is an inside tactic why would a big man need outside defense. when the guards has od.. it not like li is pulling the big man to the 3pt line.


Because it works. I assume that it's helping prevent passes getting to open guys down low, or forces more turnovers or forces big men to take less than ideal shots because they can't get the ball back out to someone else. Maybe some combination of all of the above. I just know that handling, passing and OD have all been exceptionally useful on big men in the relatively short time I've been playing this game.

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250719.29 in reply to 250719.28
Date: 11/16/2013 10:16:41 PM
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Guards stop passing up the top and bottom. in 2-3 zone even more with very high outside defense. I think don't it think it BB game realistic to find a big man with high od unless you start a sf with 6-7- 6-9 height with those stats and make him a pf / center.. that's only way, I see it being done.

Even then he cost a lot of money to train and too keep, because he has high guard skills because he started at Sf. Its worth a try though.

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250719.30 in reply to 250719.29
Date: 11/17/2013 5:46:50 AM
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Height does not count on simulation so no use in talking about it.

IRL OD on big man is important, denying that hi-lo game or those passes to cutters, contesting mid-range jumpers, footspeed to stop penetration or recovering to your rolling man.

In BB is just effective, but we can only speculate why.

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250719.31 in reply to 250719.27
Date: 11/17/2013 10:16:27 AM
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From my team statistics anaylyze i can say that 11od 11id 6sb is more effective defending post than 13id 13sb and it forces less shots attempted also. maybe because LI mainly runs pick and roll, so your big man can defend it better. Also i have noticed very weird thing second game a row my best player who is multiskiled 106skilpoints center who is listed as pg cause have like 15passing and driving and high IS tends to not assit the ball nearly at al(While playing PG) to my post players and finishes incredybly accurately above 71 percent. This happens when i run pick and roll with 106 multiskilled pg/center and 117 moldova national team sf and another freak guy 111 skillpoints pf of mine:D

Last edited by Gajus Julijus Cezaris at 11/17/2013 10:17:21 AM

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250719.32 in reply to 250719.31
Date: 11/17/2013 7:18:00 PM
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that sound pretty good, thanks

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250719.33 in reply to 250719.32
Date: 12/25/2013 6:55:47 PM
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I will start another poll around allstar break. I am curious how the GDP will be graded.

Größter Knecht aller Zeiten aka His Excellency aka President for Life aka Field Marshal Al Hadji aka Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas aka aka Conqueror of the Buzzerbeater Empire in Europe in General and Austria in Particular
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