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I'm hoping that by running a zone it that it would make up alittle for the lack of ID. Does OD have any effect on DR? I remember this American manager named SM that was really successful in the NBBA. He won two cups and the NBBA once. He didn't invest in ID at all. The highest ID he had on a player was 10. He was able to do this because he had tons of OD. When I get in higher division I plan on loading up on OD as well.

what have you for Guards or SB attempts on Jump Shots vs inside shots. so like an OD:SB comparisons?

After Marin changed SB, some managers and I analysed a bunch of games in my federation.
Our result:
95 Blocks against Driving Layup (close range)
94 Blocks against Jumper (mid range)
70 Blocks against Dunk (close range)
39 Blocks against Tough inside shot (close range)
22 Blocks against Tip-in (close range)
21 Blocks against Layup (close range)
16 Blocks against Fade away (close range)
5 Blocks against 3er (long range)

There are four different kinds of jumper (all four mid range actions) and the jumpers are second behind driving layups.

I still don't know how the engine defends these jumpers. But I think there is a ratio of OD:ID and as soon as the shot attempt occurs, SB will kick in. So the same like in the paint.
For my team, I use always SB 7+ Guards. OD does most of the work for them, but it's nice to know that there is a second skill which influences the shot and I think sometimes it makes a difference. My SG has SB 8 and he has 1.3 blks/game. My SF has SB 12 and has 1.5 blk/game. Both defend outside because I play a 3-2 zone. So for outside players it's okay.

I'm hoping that by running a zone it that it would make up alittle for the lack of ID. Does OD have any effect on DR? I remember this American manager named SM that was really successful in the NBBA. He won two cups and the NBBA once. He didn't invest in ID at all. The highest ID he had on a player was 10. He was able to do this because he had tons of OD. When I get in higher division I plan on loading up on OD as well.

You need OD to defend the opposing Guards. Every play starts with the PG, so OD will kick in and work against him. If your OD is so high that you can demolish the passing and driving of your opponents, you bigs don't need so much ID.
Let me explain it with an example:

Your players defend.
The PG has the ball and he wants to pass it to the C. He has PA 13 and without defenders he would have a nice pass to the open C. So the pass is at 100% and as soon as the C catches the ball he has a possible FG% of 70%. That's an open pass with an open shot.
Now we take an OD 18 PG to it. That's your guy. His defense has such a high pressure, that this pass will decrease to 20% (just a guess, could be higher). Now the attacking PG has to decide: passing or attacking?
The game engine calculates what's better. Passing 20% success, shooting 15% success, driving 18% success. So the PG passes the ball to the C. But the pass is so bad that the C has a hard time to find a good shooting spot. His possible FG% drops to 30% because of the influence of the OD on the pass. And now there is a ID 10 C who defends this guy. His FG% will be influenced again. And as soon as he takes the shot, SB will defend him.

So you can see, that OD has already an influence on the shot. I have a player with OD+ID+SB=57 and his defensive pressure is so high, that most of the players don't shot against him. They pass the ball to another player. But his OD influences this pass heavily and as soon as someone tries to shoot my SB-squad is there to stop them.

Last edited by Nachtmahr at 12/31/2015 10:59:41 AM

So you are saying I'm going to need a bunch of OD in order for this experiment to work? By running a 3-2 wouldn't that put even more pressure on the guards forcing them to make bad passes which would result in a not so good shot making it more likely to get blocked. I really never understood how DR and PA worked in the GE.

So you are saying I'm going to need a bunch of OD in order for this experiment to work? By running a 3-2 wouldn't that put even more pressure on the guards forcing them to make bad passes which would result in a not so good shot making it more likely to get blocked. I really never understood how DR and PA worked in the GE.

My experiences in the past with 3-2 zones, are that the other team always finds a way to match-up their shots/passes mostly against your weakest OD of the 3 defenders.

Same for 2-3 zone. They always attack the weakest one.

I think a bigger problem there is that you were only putting up Prominent outside scoring.

Yeah I don't think defense was your problem there. You guys both played a fast paced offense and you held him to 94 and a fairly low shooting percentage. I think the 2-3 Zone actually helped you. I attribute zone defenses as one of the main reasons I've been able to climb the ranks as fast as I have.

Last edited by davidghall at 1/6/2016 10:12:31 PM