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Balance the luxury tax in the future

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Date: 2/21/2016 2:46:03 PM
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but when you have competitive teams or even top leagues averaging more than $100k profit a week, the prices can only go up.

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Well I'm going to stay in my league then and hoard up a small fortune. I nearly promoted last season while spending the floor, but there is no incentive to do so.

I do what is in my best interests within the system as it is. Its up to the bb's to do what is best for the game.

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Then, I hope that one way or another we do reduce the income, because I think that is one of the main reason the market prices are increasing ...

Welcome to the club, Perpete!!!

Some of us have been saying that for a long, long, long time ... but as long as Marin wants more money in the game to make training more and more profitable, forget it.

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as long as Marin wants more money in the game to make training more and more profitable, forget it.


With the cost of level 5 trainers being triple what they were a few seasons ago, I'd say more money has had the opposite effect.





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@ periwinkle
With the cost of level 5 trainers being triple what they were a few seasons ago, I'd say more money has had the opposite effect.
Maybe one trainer tripled in cost but if so, then 3-6 players tripled in selling price. That's a lot of profit and that is exactly what Marin intended. He came right out and said the reason for what he did to the economy was to make training more profitable to try to get more players trained. I always thought that reforming training would get more players trained without wrecking the rest of the game.

@ gianloco
Frankly what you have been repeating over and over is different, at least for what I've read. You hate training, you don't want training to be in any part involved with the success in this game.
I have no idea what you have been reading, but that's fair because you seem to have no idea what I advocate. Your idea of "train with ease 6-7 HoF caliber player" seems ludicrous to me, by the way.

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Maybe one trainer tripled in cost but if so, then 3-6 players tripled in selling price. That's a lot of profit...


The cost of trainees has gone up also. Do you think the $9.7 million (plus trainer costs) will ever be recovered on a 58 tsp trainee? The only way for that to be good financially is if you draft him. Even then, it's a better financial decision to sell.

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@ periwinkle
With the cost of level 5 trainers being triple what they were a few seasons ago, I'd say more money has had the opposite effect.
Maybe one trainer tripled in cost but if so, then 3-6 players tripled in selling price. That's a lot of profit and that is exactly what Marin intended. He came right out and said the reason for what he did to the economy was to make training more profitable to try to get more players trained.


Just out of curiousity, what magic wand did he wave that caused prices to escalate so dramatically over the past several years? It seems to me that it's still supply and demand, and the issue is that calendar years of neglecting training as a general rule is much more responsible for the fundamental shortage of players of a certain caliber. But, hey, if you want prices to reduce, you'd probably love anything encouraging other people to actually do the work of training players for you, so that there's actually players available on the market.

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@ Periwinkle
Trainees are the only thing cheap on the market right now, because of the glut at the start of every season. And you’re right that a draftee can now be highly profitable. And I think we all agree that one part or another of the economy isn’t working right now. For example:
When an 18 year old with 58 tsp sells for $9.7 million, you have a real indication of why there needs to be a limit on what teams can accumulate.

@ gianloco
Thank you for your rant proving what I said, that you have no idea what I advocate.

@ hrudey
Just out of curiousity, what magic wand did he wave that caused prices to escalate so dramatically over the past several years?
Ask him, he’s the one who came right out and said it, although I wouldn’t be surprised if by now he might backtrack and wish he hadn’t been so precipitous. And although you seem to think part of your job as GM is to provoke argument, sorry, I’m not gonna be provoked by you this time, thank you.


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@ hrudey
Just out of curiousity, what magic wand did he wave that caused prices to escalate so dramatically over the past several years?
Ask him, he’s the one who came right out and said it, although I wouldn’t be surprised if by now he might backtrack and wish he hadn’t been so precipitous. And although you seem to think part of your job as GM is to provoke argument, sorry, I’m not gonna be provoked by you this time, thank you.


Perhaps if you can at least point out the source of this:
He came right out and said the reason for what he did to the economy was to make training more profitable to try to get more players trained.


I remember that he said that he wasn't initially going to bail on one of the FA changes the first week because some rise in prices was not bad, and that he felt prices could be higher. I don't recall anything on the level of him having a plan to cause this type of increase in prices overall specifically to encourage training, but I also have mentally checked out on these discussions for weeks at a time and I might have missed it.

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