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278539.23 in reply to 278539.22
Date: 5/3/2016 10:11:31 AM
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Another way is to further decrease JR salary, artificially improve it's performance in the GE or decrease the effectiveness/increase salary of OD. Could work, but with the risk that if effectiveness is improved and people also start training it more, it could get too strong.


The fundamental problem is not the JR salary. I would wager that if the salary component of JR were reduced to zero, in six seasons the only players we'd see with 18+ JR are the ones who exist today, players that got put on JR training on a semi-active team and just left there, and a few crazy people (myself included). If you're going to train a guard, for example, would you rather train three guys in JR or five-six guys in 1v1, especially since each week of 1v1 gives more TSP than the JR training in the first place, and since the handling is so important to the elastics on the other guard skills?

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278539.24 in reply to 278539.23
Date: 5/3/2016 10:32:34 AM
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I was just naming it as an option, I don't think it's a good one :)

Also, why not both? Something like this http://i.imgur.com/j8UVuUl.png

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278539.28 in reply to 278539.27
Date: 5/4/2016 6:40:32 AM
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I'd go the NT route. Mergers are years away from now and maybe won't happen, so...

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278539.30 in reply to 278539.18
Date: 5/4/2016 12:28:28 PM
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Hey

Maybe I can help you out a little bit here, since I am that only one team who has played an outside tactic in B3 Knockout so far.

In my case, I only have one player with good JR, but everyone in my S5 has pretty decent JR, even at the C position. But as far as I've learned, there are many factors that have an influence on how the game goes and who takes which shot. It's not just JR of your two guards, but it's also their DR, PA and HA as well as other players DR, PA and HA. Of course the opponents team players are also taken into consideration. Therefore it's difficult to tell anything just based on the team stats, because some skills are not really taken into team stats and yet they still matter. (i.e. my SG has good rebounding, the team stats don't really improve because of that, but he still gets lots of Rebounds, sometimes even as much as my big guys. Of course the big guys get a few rebounds less in the end because of that, but it's still worth it).

All in all I would say, that the difference between inside and outside are not that big anymore, but the skills of your players (of all 5!!!) need to be in a good relation to each other.

The overall shooting is really a bit low though (inside and outside). But I guess that's just because everyone trains ID and OD. In RL you have some bad defenders, just because they are not that talented there. In BB you don't have players with OD let's say 7-10, because it's just a killer. You can't have someone who is offensively that good to make up a bad defence, that's the difference.

Where I absolutely 100% agree is the fact with the contested vs free shots. I'd have rather my C take a contested shot then my SG a free one, which is completely unrealistic and utter nonsense.

But after all I'd say that outside tactics have gotten more interesting again in the last 2-3 seasons, as long as you are tactically flexible and not bound to always play outside. I'd still rather always play inside than always play outside, but being tactically flexible is a plus again (which was not the case 5 seasons ago).

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278539.31 in reply to 278539.25
Date: 5/4/2016 2:28:03 PM
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1 Guards overall are at a huge disadvantage for shooting. My best shooter this season was 50% for a C in Utopia...not really a good shooter even. Its silly, best way to shoot well is to play PF or C. Or SF/PF in 1on1 training for LI LOL. Or wait...play C for IS training for LI and run a patient that forces unrealistic mismatch...


The reason I think why the C has the highest FG % is because he is taking more inside shots, making his percentage higher than the outside shooters. This is the same in real life, as centers who play inside have really high percentages.

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