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125704.230 in reply to 125704.229
Date: 1/16/2010 8:33:38 AM
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Because 'suggested position' SFs are generally JumpShot bombers, with very high JS and some other stuff from 1-to-1 training. This mean they take their own shot and can't get the ball to your inside men, which is your goal. If your guards are good enough (also defensively) you can certainly play a PF at the SF position.

I'm not sure about ideal PFs, I like a lot of driving and some JS at PFs. PA is important for all players, but it's hard to train for inside players, so you need to buy passers. F.e i've got two centers averaging 3.6 and 3.2 assists/game, which is quite a lot for inside men imo.

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Date: 1/16/2010 8:51:11 AM
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Well all my players can D. Actually my SF can D better than he shoots, only 3 at PA, who is killing me i think. My plans is to upgrade the SF position soon. 2 of my best big men have 5 at passing. 4 of them they have at least 6~10 on JS. My guards have 10-8-6 at PA. So looks like that all of my players can pass. Do i need a PG with 12+ at PA to be successful? (always considering the low lvl of my league).

Its not like that i dont have passing in my team, and considering that i would expect better results using inside tactics.

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125704.232 in reply to 125704.230
Date: 1/16/2010 8:51:53 AM
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in my opinion 4 (dont know the english word for this level) is already good,not ideal, PA for PF and C
so I don't think its that hard to train,or to find in the TL

but I want to know what you all consider to be a good level of PA for the C and PF

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Date: 1/16/2010 8:58:10 AM
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The balance of your guards seem to weigh more to shooting than to passing, so their focus in games will also be more to shooting than to giving assists. If you check the games where you played a low post, your top shooter and scorer is your 70k SG (i only check two games). He maybe be an awesome guard, but he doesn't fit in inside tactics, because you decrease his looks for shooting by playing an inside focus, but he will still shoot more than pass, while his looks are worse.

So it's a combination of skills, I can't just say your guard needs 12 PA, you need a level high enough to be able to give the passes, but also the balance of your players should weigh at leasts equal to passing, preferably even more to passing than shooting.

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125704.234 in reply to 125704.232
Date: 1/16/2010 8:59:19 AM
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125704.236 in reply to 125704.233
Date: 1/16/2010 11:36:06 AM
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What if i want a balanced team? If i do what you are saying then it limits my options and i am able to play only inside tactics. Why not be able to surprise my opponents?Yes my SG is great shooter JS/JR/OD=15/12/13, but again my big men are very good scorers too.(3 best min 13 on IS, plus nice JS), so when i am chosing inside tactics i am expecting the ball to go way more inside than outside. Of course i want my good guard shooters to be able to make there open shots that the big men will produce.

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Date: 1/16/2010 11:46:05 AM
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If you can't play inside tactics, your team isn't balanced right now.

To balance your team you could try to get guards for several tactics. Lets say you got a total of 5 guards in your roster, you could try 2 more passing balanced, 2 more shooting balanced, and one overall player. If you play inside you start the passing balanced guys, if you play outside you play the other ones. It's not easy but it should be possible hehe


Last edited by BB-Patrick at 1/16/2010 11:46:39 AM

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125704.238 in reply to 125704.237
Date: 1/16/2010 3:34:30 PM
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An interesting game from lower divisions: (17992341) The SG of the team that played LI took more shoots that his PF/C (starters and subs)combined

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Date: 1/16/2010 5:25:32 PM
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I like your ideas,(you are saying that you can built an effective inside game) but still doesnt change the fact that its really hard to do it, and a luxury for the rich clubs. Also we gonna always doubt for what we are doing is right or wrong, and believe me its not very pleasant to see your mistakes on a must win game. Why dont you take the route that can understand and its more safe?

If passing is so important (understandable) why its not given the chance to train it, lets say for the forwards? why PA training its privilege only only for the guards? (again dont tell me about team training, i am not buying it)

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