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I don't agree with this at all. People tank, it's what they do. So what? We're supposed to punish the Charlotte Bobcats now? For having a crappy team and having top picks in the draft? NO! we don't. Why? Because that's absurd.

Plus some uneven conferences make some of the leagues really hard to play in. We have all seen this, in one conference 10 wins gets you to the playoffs, in the other, 10 wins grants you relegation. So in that case, why not tank? Why struggle in a conference that is way too tough to play in, when you can tank, and "restart". It seems only fair. Every player in this game has his/her own strategy and that's the fun of it. If tanking is soooo good, why don't you guys all tank? It seems like the way to go

Yes, the Bobcats get DRAFT PICKS. Not the money to go out and buy the ALL STAR TEAM IN FREE AGENCY

That's absurd.

the 2nd paragraph of your post. I agree with.

Just to clarify, its not just this season's Bobcats that have tanked. And yes they did tank.

Here are some other notable tank jobs.

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/40780/when-tankers-tell-the-truth

personal experience watching it. Cavs... 2002. Tanked hardcore, traded away a Young and talented Andre Miller, to the Clippers, the ONLY team with a worse record than them, for Darius Miles... in an effort for the clippers to win more, and them less. For the LeBron james Lottery.

Hmm, haven't read the recent posts but just wondering if the community would think my team is tanking. In some ways I see us as tankers, we could decide to promote(maybe, East is really good ;)) but we wait instead to give us a better chance when we do finally promote. I want to see where people think that "gray area" is.


Main Point Against Us Tanking
-We are doing well, have one of the best teams in the league in fact
-I never decide to lose games on purpose through tactics, I always put out a good roster considering GS/training and whatnot

Points For Us Tanking
-We are making a solid weekly profit while in the cup(it will be less solid once we're out-note solid for D.IV)
-We train out of position a lot of the time(keeping us from full strength)
-I've purposely decided to save money instead of improving my team
-I occasionally "give-away" league games to go for the cup (I say "give-away" because my backups are often enough to win regardless)

And other random question, Do I need to I need to increase my arena much for D.II?

I don't agree with this at all. People tank, it's what they do. So what? We're supposed to punish the Charlotte Bobcats now? For having a crappy team and having top picks in the draft? NO! we don't. Why? Because that's absurd.

Plus some uneven conferences make some of the leagues really hard to play in. We have all seen this, in one conference 10 wins gets you to the playoffs, in the other, 10 wins grants you relegation. So in that case, why not tank? Why struggle in a conference that is way too tough to play in, when you can tank, and "restart". It seems only fair. Every player in this game has his/her own strategy and that's the fun of it. If tanking is soooo good, why don't you guys all tank? It seems like the way to go

Yes, the Bobcats get DRAFT PICKS. Not the money to go out and buy the ALL STAR TEAM IN FREE AGENCY

That's absurd.

the 2nd paragraph of your post. I agree with.

This should be the end of the discussion.

Why are you comparing a game to something that happens in real life. As much i have read this thread, i did not see any convincing proof that tanking is a good tactic. please show me an example of superior tanking strategy.

here's tanker:

In season 19, DrunKeN_MasTerS made the semifinals of the playoffs in league Lietuva II.4
In season 19, DrunKeN_MasTerS were one of the final 4096 teams in the Lietuvos BB Taurė
In season 18, DrunKeN_MasTerS lost the relegation series and were relegated from league Lietuva LBBL
In season 18, DrunKeN_MasTerS reached the quarterfinals of the Lietuvos BB Taurė
In season 17, DrunKeN_MasTerS were crowned champions of league Lietuva II.1
In season 17, DrunKeN_MasTerS were one of the final 512 teams in the Lietuvos BB Taurė
In season 16, DrunKeN_MasTerS were crowned champions of league Lietuva III.3
In season 16, DrunKeN_MasTerS reached the quarterfinals of the Lietuvos BB Taurė
In season 15, DrunKeN_MasTerS were crowned champions of league Lietuva IV.59
In season 15, DrunKeN_MasTerS were one of the final 64 teams in the Lietuvos BB Taurė
In season 14, DrunKeN_MasTerS were relegated from league Lietuva III.3
In season 14, DrunKeN_MasTerS were one of the final 2048 teams in the Lietuvos BB Taurė
In season 13, DrunKeN_MasTerS were relegated from league Lietuva II.2
In season 13, DrunKeN_MasTerS were one of the final 4096 teams in the Lietuvos BB Taurė
In season 12, DrunKeN_MasTerS finished 5th in league Lietuva II.2
In season 12, DrunKeN_MasTerS were one of the final 512 teams in the Lietuvos BB Taurė
In season 11, DrunKeN_MasTerS made the playoffs in league Lietuva II.2
In season 11, DrunKeN_MasTerS were one of the final 16 teams in the Lietuvos BB Taurė
In season 10, DrunKeN_MasTerS were crowned champions of league Lietuva III.3

As you see, he actually played at the start. then decided to save money and be successful to promote quickly with loads of cash. yep, he did reach the first division and... was relegated. a team of experience from season 2 tanked. where is he now? II with 3 wins and 3 loses. does not seem to be a leader, because in his league two teams that did not lose this season are the teams that was created at season 5 and season 7. tanking is just wasting time :)

For the people who are pro tanking, please LISTEN to the argument against it.

There is a difference between those who tank and those who do not do well.

No one wants a change that means that if someone chooses to have a season where they aren't (or simply just can't be) competitive, they severely lose out. In fact, if someone does choose not to be competitive, they can still make money, just not enough to, as previous poster suggested, go out and buy the allstar team.

This isn't "punishing" anyone. It's giving those managers who don't make the right decisions the consequences they deserve for not making the right decisions. They have to go back to the drawing board and work out a better strategy, not sell all players and make way more than others who are actually thinking about (and good at) basketball tactics.

There is a difference between those who tank and those who do not do well.

please, show me who did well.

Last edited by Rycka at 6/6/2012 5:41:09 PM

I'm not "pro" tanking. I'm "anti" telling people how they have to play.