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278268.234 in reply to 278268.233
Date: 4/11/2016 10:20:34 AM
Guma Terror
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hello, i dont mind merging the leagues with other countries as long as:

- the merging is based on something clear (not random, for example, language, so countries with different languages wont merged togheter)
- number of players, not merging a 5 teams country with a 80 team country, so it won be overwhelmed in forums or something
- keep national flag, national teams, keeping only teams for one nation vote for the NT managers, and drafted players are from same nation
- dont make anything weird, like letting people from other countries, or having second or third teams in our merged leagues for whatever reason, problably fake one
- and if you really want to make competitions harder and NT better, apply experience for tactics so you wont be able to play anything anytime without training it before, and enforce some rule of number of domestic players in the starting 5 or lineup

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278268.237 in reply to 278268.224
Date: 4/11/2016 11:17:09 AM
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I propose we merge micronations if following way: Make top divison shared, keep lower divisions national.


+1000.

My honest opinion is that this simply isn't an issue that can be fixed easily and really is difficult to envision a fair and proper solution absent a reboot of the entire game world, which is entirely unpractical, or a new parallel game world, which is mostly unpractical and a lot of work for development staff.

I think if that if something were to be done, though, a continental SuperLeague structure is probably the way to go. Not just for the micros, though it would give them something to aim for, but for every continent. Heck, maybe even a World SuperDuperLeague made up of champions of the continental leagues as well.

There are a metric ton of balancing issues and mechanical issues regarding promotion and relegation of the different nationalities that would need to be fixed; it's easy to have 1 team promote from each of four national leagues, for example, but if three of the four teams demoting are from country A, they can't all go back easily to the national league.

Still, I think of the ideas I've seen now that I let myself read this, I personally like yours the best.

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278268.238 in reply to 278268.236
Date: 4/11/2016 11:19:30 AM
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Personally I dont think that the merge will solve the issue. I may be wrong.....
Why not make a test it with some volunteer countries and then check the results....if it works then we discuss using this method for merging other nations....

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278268.242 in reply to 278268.241
Date: 4/11/2016 12:36:45 PM
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Keeping NTs, flags, Players nationalities and forums seem to be the most important things to players. Its just whether the leagues get merged, the cups get merged, just the top division gets merged and creates a 'champions division' or nothing gets merged at all.

SOme compromise will probably have to be reached.

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278268.243 in reply to 278268.241
Date: 4/11/2016 12:38:13 PM
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...this notion of losing identity has been mainly used as a cover up for "I don't want to play with Ys ever and no circumstances") even though most of the ideas here are based on retaining the flag and nationality of players.
Exactly, this would be no problem if we merge leagues, but keep the flag, NTs and the national forums. This solution sounds like it needs more programming, but it is obviously the one that has a broad appeal. I don't care if I end up in a lower division, as long as I get to play some real teams.

I am glad BB is looking into possible solutions, and that they let users air their opinion. Keep in mind that the user numbers are dropping, in micronations mainly because there is a lack of competition and challenge. Something needs to be done. If it is at all possible to create new leagues with mixed micronations, that is the choice that changes the least about the community, and it creates an enviroment for balance.

The number of managers in each league should allow both further decline for a while, but also growth, since I think by doing this it will once again be fun to play with a micronation team (in a mixed league).

The tournament should also be within those mixed leagues, so every team in each mixed league gets the same amount of tournament games.

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278268.244 in reply to 278268.218
Date: 4/11/2016 12:45:29 PM
Shahin.Boushehr
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Well that is your opinion. I respect that, while I don't agree with you.

Iran community I think is working just fine and I believe that we should not be included in the merge.

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