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These players need to be trained effectively. There are several theories on how to do that best. This is actually the easiest thing to manage, so let's come back to that later.

i think this is exactly what you guys cant seem to agree on. I feel that we need a NT coach that wants to coach the english NT for many seasons to come. And we should try and get him a set off players he feels he wants to get. It is nice we all give our say, and than someone spends 4 seasons training a player for the NT and than he doesnt get selected because it is an offensive player and for example the NT coach prefers defensive players

More sarcasm.

Broker? No.

If someone approaches me and asks me to help sell a player, I'll do it. If someone approaches me and asks me to help buy a player, I'll do that too.

I've already done this in fact. But it hasn't happened very often.

However, its far simpler if someone wants a player, for them to approach the owner directly.

Additionally I'm not really interested in brokering players to one top team in the EBBL, and I don't think any other NT manager should either.

The point of the broker is to stop a rush of BBmails to the owners of the players on our list of prospects. If it's just one person saying, "look, we have managers in our community prepared to give you an early bid of x, would you sell at that price?" then it's more likely that that manager will communicate.

Shall we all pause...

It snowed where I live today, I've been making snowballs and enjoyed tea in the midst of a snow fort made by my son. It was fun and what life is all about... Family.

Ultimately we still need a core community that are able to work together rather than reading sarcasm into every statement (no sarcasm was in that statement). This community will never run by strategy but ultimately as Elmacca rightly summarises, it will work by community and communication, with what is inferred in his last post 'trust'.

Looking at the way this thread has gone over the last few days; looking at how it began to deteriorate after accusations of blanket snobbery was hurled generally in the direction of anyone found to be disagreeable or hold contrary opinions (not a put down or sarcasm), there has been a blanket disregarding of huge efforts that have been put by people into players and the NT over countless seasons (not a put down or sarcasm and I do not include myself in that group so you cannot claim that I am bemoaning not being appreciated). There are overcritical attitudes from some and others reading overcritical attitudes into others where there is none (not a put down or sarcasm).

It is rather obvious that there is a significant level of trust within the community that needs to be brokered before things can improve.

Myself being positioned now in the ebbl has given many reason to see that as a reason to read that whatever I say is from a position of putting people down, please do not, never do, I would happily drop to D3 just to make sure nobody felt put down. That is the way I live my life and frankly that is the furthest thing from my mind. I personally do not get my sense of self worth from playing online games, so what would be the purpose of point scoring (and that is not a put down either)? There are clear power plays on this forum (not a put down), where individuals are seeking influence and to be the 'main man' (not a put down), honestly if you need someone to recognise your greatness (not sarcasm) I'll happily call you wonderful (not sarcasm) so we can all move on and work as a team (not sarcasm or a put down). The ones this most applies to will probably become apparent as anyone that feels affronted by even that statement probably has a share in what is going on here (which is not a put down but a call to work together).

So shall we all take a night off, some may want to make a snowman, others may just watch a movie and have a glass of wine.

And lets come to the table in a day or so, warm hearted and with a commitment to overcome our assumptions and differences and actually pull a team together for the NT?

I'm most upset by the fact you have snow and all I have is this terrible blue sky with not even a cloud in sight! Elitist! Snow Snob!

What would be great is if EBBL teams stopped spending such huge wages on players

So, I hear you, but I still have B3 ambitions, which means a hefty payroll.

My thing now is to try and learn how to win B3 - and that isn't cheap - and then win it, which will be even more expensive.

The EBBL I look at more as a 'been there, done that' thing gets me into B3. I also like setting a high bar that other teams have to plan, and hopefully innovate to get past, if they want to make it into B3.

To be honest, if it wasn't me carrying the big salaries and competing with the big boys and making life difficult for everyone else, then it would be Muse (and soon will be Muse anyway, by the look of his roster).

I want the NT to do well, but it is one of a number of interests for me, and not the main one.


Last edited by Elmacca at 12/12/2014 12:51:30 PM

wow with a 6 vs 2 record you didnt make it into the next round off B3? Even some 7-1 teams not making it. CRAZY!!!

It's pretty unforgiving, B3. One bad tactic and one early Sharpling injury cost me two games against teams that went on to finish 8-0. And that's all she wrote for another B3 campaign.

Hey, a league mate mentioned this thread to me and I just scheme read it.
I'm not going to enlighten anyone, also because those of you who post here and will read me are 6-7 coaches with nice achievements in the game by the looks of things.
Apparently there's no training brain in lower divisions. I'm unaware of this fact, but if it was true, it is a usual problem of a community with less active people. It doesn't matter if you send 5 mails to the person, because if that person don't want to spend time on the game, the mails won't help either. Me myself, I didn't have any help but I am aware of how training works in the game because I like to spend time on knowing it, simple as that.

About NT performances, well I don't know how different NT is from a team, but shouldn't it be about getting closer to the final skills you imagine your player? Despite my transfer list, I spend hours on the market, and in there you see maaany int players. Slovakia or Czech rely on similar patterns, a player like
18-14
19-19
19-13
11-11
7

And specific bigs that I'm sure you know of, maxing to the possible extent od and ps, secondaries in general.
Once the player is with a committed manager, I believe the next step is to lead to those "skills you imagine". And that's about it.

Now, being realistic, are you seriously suggesting a center with 17sb? I mean, SB teams, as I understand, work well solely because of their mutual support and use of zones, mainly 3-2. What would that center do in a community where he is the only very peculiar player designed for that? I understand something more generic like the example of SL and CZ is more feasible.

Nice to meet you, and may I just say how informed and measured your post is. I think you are very sensible in your approach to realistic and achievable goals within the context of the community we have. Thank you for taking the time to write, definitely food for thought.