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Thanks Frosty, I appreciate it. I'm expecting a first round blowout, but I'm just glad to be in it for the first time.

Last edited by DJ Kieller at 1/31/2016 12:02:49 AM

step by step, bud

you know, i've thought that this season, i had to be in one of the toughest leagues in the division, but i wasn't sure how to go about quantifying it. i think i've come up with a decent metric. now, yes i know that money doesn't say everything, and that salary doesn't tell the story of estimated current incomes due to decay or improvement, but i think it's a pretty solid ballpark metric. usually salary has an extremely strong correlation with winning. it's the best predictor i've been able to find over my years playing this game. however, when comparing leagues to leagues, having a total salary is extremely misleading due to teams tanking, and some just being top heavy. i decided that i would take the top 5 teams from each conference in terms of wins, accounting for 10 teams per league, and find out the total salaries between the different leagues. i considered just doing playoff teams, but that doesn't quite tell the story of the difficulty to entry into the playoffs, and also avoiding a relegation series, which i think both factor into how "tough" a league really is. all that said, here are the results, listed highest total salary to lowest total salary. dividing them by 10 gives you the average salary of the top 10 teams (in terms of standings, not wins) in the leauge. without further ado, here is how the leagues stack up against one another:

1 - III.15 - $2,746,345
2 - III.7 - $2,705,501 <---my league
3 - III.16 - $2,662,063
4 - III.13 - $2,499,216
5 - III.11 - $2,497,514
6 - III.8 - $2,466,445
7 - III.12 - $2,289,008
8 - III.3 - $2,271,410
9 - III.5 - $2,234,385
10 - III.4 - $2,192,685
11 - III.14 - $2,165,297
12 - III.1 - $2,083,316
13 - III.10 - $2,076,643
14 - III.2 - $2,060,135
15 - III.6 - 2,043,725
16 - III.9 - $1,996,066

I know for a fact that III.11 is a very tough league (had a buddy in there and i check it from time to time), i was in III.15 when i was in the US and had an acc there, I wouldnt say it's more difficult than III.11. But possibly up there. Activity was low enough for a smart team to grab a win though.

III.2 i know to be a relatively weakish d3, i had a friend in there, he just won the regular season (flex zone stars)

I'm unfamiliar with the other leagues but I think from the salaries the "degree of difficulty" is about 80-85% accurate.

yeah there are a number of things that could contribute in slides up and down in terms of power ranking. for instance, in league III.12, they had the dribble penetrators, work in progress and san diego shamu, all of whom are incredibly good teams, and made some other teams sort of sell off their players because they had no realistic chance of advancing for several seasons. this is just one metric i found that (imo) at least gives a good indication of where the leagues are at

another good job Frosty..

Very interesting to see and a good idea to try to figure it out. I always figured we were in a tough league one of the toughest thats for sure. Its interesting to think about for sure. Good work as always.

In other news BucsBlue wanted to officially announce and give Joe Hilton all the thanks and recognition in the world. The young man was drafted by the Bucs in a season where the Bucs Invest literally 0 points in the draft and got Joe. he came in as a 7k 19yr old rookie. and trained and worked extremely hard to be over 25k by age of 21. Yesterday the team decided to move Joe Hilton for $ as he was not a key component in the long term goal of moving back to the top of III.7... Joe was a competitor and contributed to keeping the fans happy and the team a float as we transitioned, HOWEVER joe was a bit of a hot head and WAY too aggressive on and off the court... resulting in Averaging over 5 fouls a game every single season. Joe played hard with passion, but in a game of tight windows having Joe foul out over 90% of the games he played in, sending countless players to the FT line, and also hurting his own and our teams overall training mins was too much to overlook when debating the long term of our team. We decided that at Joe's age it was too much of a risk to think that he would just change his aggressive ways so we parted with the player. We hope Joe continues to train and develop and wish him the best moving forward.

I was going to inquire your opinion on this very matter some time ago. In Hattrick there are offsites which take your team's game ratings (like inside defense and flow, for instance, though they're based on zonal ratings, right defense, for example) and can assign a team and a league a power rating and can predict your chances of beating or drawing a team, even accounting for home field advantage. I don't think you'd be able to do quite the same thing in BB, but I'm not a bit surprised to see our league's among the toughest around.
It sucks anybody has to be relegated (It gave me no pleasure to knock out Crosstown in a nailbiter) but there's no thrill in victory without the agony of defeat. If I do get dropped, it's going to hurt like a kick in the gonads, but if it happens I know I'll come back a lot smarter and likely in a easier league. My biggest mistake was trusting buzzer-manager in building my arena. I've cheated myself out of at least a quarter of a million, probably closer to half. That's the kind of mistake you can't afford to make at this level. I'll consider myself fortunate if it doesn't prove fatal.
Good luck, everyone.

los angeles has put together a dangerous squad. you'll have your hands full. you've prepared and performed admirably this season. i kinda hope you get relegated, because the long term consequences of having a manager like you on our side... well, that's just one more thing to worry about, and i'd prefer a team i didn't have to worry about. please, not another one. i already have... well, every team to worry about. i hope svj gets relegated, too. unfortunately, i see both of those scenarios as the more unlikely, and i'll probably have to deal with you again next season, and probably have to deal with at least 1 upgraded starter, which is more than enough to scare me about my playoff spot.

It is brutal, and even if I stay up, I might be in a worse situation next season, if a nightmare scenario of a relegated team as good as Orlando and a promoted team as good as Lionspride. I know it's going to be a long time before I can think about contending here, but I do have reason for optimism. I hated paying a million for a 32 year old small forward, but it needed done. For years I've tried training them myself, an effort best described as EPIC FAIL, and now I'm glad to pay somebodhy else top dollar for their trouble. It probably looked crazy when I spent another million on a a 23 year old back up shooting guard, but he's done better than expected and has improved a lot. I'd probably make a profit on him right now, even with the hefty agent fees. Whatever happens in the playoffs, he'll take the starting job next season and I'll be able to buy another big man.
I do not like using the transfer system in this game. I'm guessing its easier if you've got the premium membership. I looked at a couple of random team's history, and my total expenditures are about a fifth of the rest of the league, I'm guessing. I get 23 year olds because it means I don't have to go shopping for ten seasons. That's why I shave my head once a year -- because I hate sitting in a barber's chair. But to compete up here I'm going to have to learn to tolerate it (using the transfer list, I mean, not getting a haircut).

we got a relegated team last season. rhino's rage. we won't get one next season, it'll be all promoted teams