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From: yodabig

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190775.239 in reply to 190775.230
Date: 8/20/2011 6:47:37 AM
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Stazza83 hope you don't mind if I make a few comments. You have a dirt cheap roster -cheapest in the league which is great - bit I assume the Salary floor is about $70,000 so you could add $10,000 more and not actually pay a cent more each week.

Training will be your key this season but from here I can't tell what you are trying to do.

You have:
18 6'3" starter 4k PG
18 6'5" allstar 3k SG (injured for 3 weeks)
18 6'10" starter 4k C
19 6'9" MVP 3k C
19 6'2" allstar 4k PG
19 6'5" allstar 4.5k SG
19 6'0" pallstar 3.5k SG
19 6'0" pallstar 3.5k SF

To tell the truth I am not that impressed by any of them, but at least the last two have good height and potential but as 3.5k 19 year olds they are way behind. All these guys know how to train. I suggest you get three good trainees and make them into studs.

So assuming you will be training guards, a player like Antonio Tricomi is perfect for you, $10,000 a week and gets the job done. You could probably use another reasonable big man and a decent SF.

If you have 3 x 5k trainees.
4 x 10k guys at the other positions.
3 x 5k backups.
That would be about your $70,000 a week and would give you a better chance of winning the key games - which there aren't really many. Just stay above the Boganators and watch the bottom four in the Great 8 and make sure you can beat them.

Staff should be minimal. Max $5,000 each on doctor and PR - consider $2,000. Trainer I would try to get a level four fitness guy, you can get them with weekly salaries of less than $15,000.

Your arena is hilarious! Ticket prices must be changed before tuesday. Put the prices for lower tier and courtside way up, put luxury boxes up to near the max and build at least half a dozen. Arena = income. You MUST start building it, make this and training your top focus for the first 2/3 of this season.

Well that is a start, hope it is helpful. You are in a super interesting league and a tough one so good luck and good planning will be needed but at least it will be an interesting time.

From: Brett

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190775.240 in reply to 190775.239
Date: 8/20/2011 6:58:26 AM
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Fair call Yoda, this guy hasn't gotten to where he is without hard work stazza so I would take that advice on hand..

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Date: 8/21/2011 3:42:23 AM
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U jelly.

Can you smell what the Hobos are cooking... oh wait its just Roger. (18085274)
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190775.242 in reply to 190775.241
Date: 8/21/2011 3:59:38 AM
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not at all...

i won my first game this season 5-0

Garrie Addison (18085302). The G-Adder striking blows since season 15
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190775.243 in reply to 190775.242
Date: 8/21/2011 4:25:29 AM
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nicely done! i went up 4-0.. dunno how, still have no idea what i am doing.. building a pretty boss stadium tho... no money left to spend on players :D

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Date: 8/21/2011 4:25:57 AM
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I won 3-1.

Can you smell what the Hobos are cooking... oh wait its just Roger. (18085274)
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190775.245 in reply to 190775.236
Date: 8/21/2011 4:48:40 AM
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Ideally you want to invest heavily on the facilities that generate income. Just as important are the facilities that increase your training capabilities and inturn, your individual player abilities. When you replace your older squad members with stronger players at a younger age, you are continually improving your squad and your bank balance. More wins means better division means better sponsorship means mo' money. Stadium is key, yes, but there is so much more around it that proves the difference between a good team and an average one.

The setup of 1st 2011 is bad because there are so many teams involved (the map of the tournament virtually requires you to have microscopic eyesight lol). All I know is I made it through the first round then knocked out in my two leg playoff to a team 10 strength points greater than mine in just the first XI.

From: Stazza

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190775.246 in reply to 190775.239
Date: 8/21/2011 5:14:37 AM
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Hi Yoda,

As a few of the lads are aware, I have absolutely no money to buy 3 decent trainees, so I chose the long way around to train what I had and sell them off (but they have advised me this is fraught with danger as I may not receive what I hope to when I do sell them). I guess I'm stuck with what I have for now until I build up a bank balance mate.

The level 4 staff all cost well above the measly biccies I have in the bank, so that's something that also has to wait.

My arena is a stinker I know lol, Ive changed prices to (as at 23/8):
BL: 12
LT: 55
CS: 165
LB: 1500

Thanks for all your advice mate, atleast when I get a bit of money in the bank I have a good idea now of what I want to do :)

From: ezlife

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190775.247 in reply to 190775.246
Date: 8/21/2011 7:49:59 AM
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Hey guys, I just had a look at this forum after checking how my ex-div mate neeber was doing and I gotta say it looks fantastic. It must be a delight to blossom in this league.

You should not overrestimate yourself: you're probably not one of the hardest div III, although you're certainly one of the smartest (owing to your great forum I'd guess).

Your trainees look awesome and in my opinion you don't have to worry too much about the potential: get a couple of superstars as your main trainees, sure. However you can also consider getting some much cheaper star / allstar boys to train along with your superstar. For example, if you train JS one week, you basically have 6x48 min to spend. And this work for any kind of 2 positions training. Then you can either sell these second-hand trainees or keep them as back-up. Their value will increase with training anyway.

You could also buy an older second-hand trainee (24 yo) with a good potential (p.a-s +). In that case he could easily be a strong starter during 1 game per week and then be trained during the next. He would also improve and gain value.

By the way, you can find bargains on the TL. Just be patient, it's the key! For example, I've bought a 100k C - 25yo, superstar - for 500k. I'm training his outside skills (which are already "inept") along with my main trainee and he can give me 1 win per week. If you aren't looking for immediate promotion, that's a ideal mid-term plan.

As someone stated previously in this forum, you'll probably spend 4 seasons in a div III. So carry on with the hard work with the trainees!

What I can guarrantee is that the way you're doing you should not be the ones demoting after their first season in div II.

Good luck to all of you

From: Skyhookz

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190775.248 in reply to 190775.247
Date: 8/21/2011 8:19:39 AM
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You should not overrestimate yourself: you're probably not one of the hardest div III, although you're certainly one of the smartest (owing to your great forum I'd guess).


Blasphemy!!! He's a witch!! He's a witch!! Burn him at the stake :D We know we are good.. :P

I think overall this season the league is definitely not as hard as it has been in the past, but that is due to several bots in the past (i think 4 bots last season from memory?).. This is the first time in a while we have had a season where only 1 guy is going bot, and no super div 2 demotee... So if everyone hangs around, i think it will get tougher and tougher...

I have 3 trainees at the moment.. Is there much difference between 2 pos and single pos training? the reason i ask is 95% of my team are rubbish and i am thinking of dumping them for more trainees, but dont want to kill the prospects of the ones i have...


From: ezlife

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190775.249 in reply to 190775.248
Date: 8/21/2011 8:37:41 AM
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Well there are some people who know better than me about the difference between single and double pos. training. Though what I'm 100% sure about is that you'll train faster with single pos. training. However there are some programs like JS that you can't train single position. Considering how much you pay for this son of a b**** coach, you'd better make him do his job and train these 6 people when you do JS.

Personnally, I have 2 good trainees that always get the 48 min no matter what is being trained. They are 21 p.-as / 22 hof.
Then I have 2 older boys that get the 48 min if I train double pos. (JS, 1v1). They are 25 superstar / 27 p.-as. The last guy I train is a scrub that is still being useful as a back up despite his low salary. He is 21 starter. Finally I can also train one of my old trainees who are still 24 if I can afford it. So I have my hierarchy.

I forgot the english word for this, but the idea is to give as much work as you can to your coach in order to make his wages worth it if you know what I mean :s

EDIT: I wanted to add that it's not worth getting a 18yo superstar just to give him the double pos. training. He would need maximum training, unlike a future back up or an already well rounded 25yo guy.

So to answer your question I don't know who you're training atm but you got 2 strong guards to focus on. I don't know what your bank account looks like either so I'd say focus on David and J.-F.. Then eventually train the indian guy with them so he could turn up into a fine forward. You could also get a C with 30-40k salary and work on his secondaries. I don't think the korean guy is getting anywhere and yeah you could definitely get rid of some players. But again this is just an opinion. It worked for me and I enjoy the way things are going for me right now.

Last edited by ezlife at 8/21/2011 8:49:49 AM

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