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From: Mike

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Date: 3/22/2010 11:14:15 PM
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no, just uninformed.

From: Mike

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Date: 3/22/2010 11:41:02 PM
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For what it's worth, I'm happy about the change. I think it's long overdue for top teams to have to start making hard personnel choices based on rising salaries. Lower division teams have had to deal with this for a long time, and it adds a lot to the game. This move is very good, especially because every other economic change for the last few season has moved things in the other direction, increasing revenues and cutting costs disproportionately for top teams.

I was only upset about the shock to the market, which is going to be bad, but I guess there's not much you can do about that beyond the news.

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Date: 3/22/2010 11:50:04 PM
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After 1 season in dII - Scrapheap saw salaries rise from 279 to 385k/wk. Center jumped nearly 25k to 98k with only 1 bump in training. PG jumped nearly 30k to 66k. I hope tv revenue increases so I can break even and build a few seats to help pay for the costs or I have to sell someone. I knew I would see some general increases, but Wow. Also - I thought there was going to be a significant reward for having mostly American players. I hope to see that happen.

BTW - glad to see Giants back in NBBA. He just didn't fit in with us low-life's in DII.

From: Edju
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Date: 3/22/2010 11:51:05 PM
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4/27/2010 8:00:00 PM

ARMAGEDDON

NO ONE at this table ordered a rum & Coke
Charles: Penn has some good people
A CT? Really?
Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
Any five are live
From: Mike
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Date: 3/23/2010 12:01:10 AM
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If anyone is interested, here are the 29 players in our league above 80k

SS    Humberto Cajamarca (5651617)      C  $187,832 
BMB   Raul Villapadierna (8010023)      C  $157,606 
LMA   Fernando Garay (4568852)          C  $143,984 
Bobo  Pedro Ovando Solis (5302817)      C  $141,609 
TWSS  Aiurdi Magunagoikoetxea (5740635) C  $140,216 
WTTD  Ismael Grubbs (789816)            PF $135,532 
Hea   Simeon Villegas (4577356)         PG $132,991 
Ice   Vittorio Pontremoli (6415180)     C  $130,118 
SA    Philippe Cousin (8116391)         C  $129,952 
BMG   Alfonso Cespedes (6015317)        C  $122,718 
Wake  Fabian Galeano (4579617)          SG $122,342 
KDB   Cherif Bendjellal (4666229)       SG $116,734 
WTTD  Julien Hallier (4665073)          C  $108,223 
KDB   Rainer Werner Altendorf (4591169) PF $107,589 
KDB   Ðordije Dragomanovic (4652937)  SG $106,309 
TWSS  Dan Billingsley (4484235)         SG $106,209 
DC    Honorato Ducoing (3097014)        C  $105,191 
Ice   Mauro Salmorejo (5737100)         C  $103,228 
DC    Giovanni Pia (6762471)            C  $100,257 
Hea   Echedey Cuminao (4752671)         C   $94,505 
nth   John Frydenberg (4811373)         PG  $91,555 
BMG   Gustaw Fejdasz (6023826)          C   $90,835 
Hea   Galdor Pérez (2440915)           C   $88,022 
nth   Horacio Sessarego (2367515)       PG  $85,764 
Bulls Gabriel Gouby (2370568)           C   $83,182 
Ice   Eddy van Westerloo (2242889)      C   $83,043 
LMA   Frederic Denizart (5828913)       C   $81,364 
Bulls Angel Saenz (4578490)             SG  $80,367 
nth   Geoffray Baert (5861322)          C   $80,120

From: dhoff

To: Mike
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Date: 3/23/2010 12:54:04 AM
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Holy salary explosion, batman.

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Date: 3/23/2010 7:00:45 AM
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Indeed. It would be nice if they would announce big changes to the salary function ahead of time. Make deciding when to buy less of a guessing game.


Not sure if that was sarcastic, but...

Due to changes in training patterns, it looks like the salary scale will be somewhat higher next season than it is this season. We expect the salaries to be around 10-15% higher at the top end

The problem is, as far as I've been able to tell, the top end increased by about 50%. Our top salaried NT players that were in line to make 250k or so are now at 330k.

edit: this may not be quite right. Factoring in the previous increase, the new one looks like 18-20% on top players.

Last edited by wozzvt at 3/23/2010 7:03:40 AM

From: Mike
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Date: 3/23/2010 8:49:29 AM
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I was curious about depth, esp the Bulls', so here's every team's payroll, individually sorted. So, the 3rd column shows how much everyone pays their 3rd highest-paid player.

        1    2    3    4    5    6    7    8 
        
KDB   117  108  106   75   74   50   43   32   
Hea   133   95   88   75   60   56   53   33   
Ice   130  103   83   53   48   47   47   44   
Bull   83   80   62   62   60   53   51   50   
WTTD  136  108   67   55   46   44   37   26   
LMA   144   81   66   60   49   44   40   28   
SS    188   73   59   57   45   39   32   12   
BMG   158  123   91   58   34   33    5    5   
DC    105  100   66   43   41   38   34   28   
SA    130   82   62   56   51   35   33   31   
nth    92   86   80   50   45   44   39   24   
TWSS  140  106   79   60   28   16    7    7   
Wake  122   70   63   41   40   35   28   21   
Bobo  142   63   57   34   29   27   14   14   
ChiT   73   70   60   59   53   32   19   17   
Lil    55   53   53   48   45   41   24   16   
                           
                           
                           
       9  10  11  12  13  14  15  16  17
       
KDB   27  10   3   3   3            
Hea   28  13   4   3   2            
Ice   36   8   6   4   3   3   2   2   2
Bull  28  20   7   5   5   4         
WTTD   8   5   5   4   3   3   3   2   
LMA    5   4   4   4   3   2         
SS     8   5   3   2   1            
BMG    5   5   4   3               
DC    10   9   6   5   4   4   3   3   
SA     5   3   3   3   3   2         
nth   18   3                     
TWSS   6   4   3   3   3   3         
Wake  10   6   5   4   3   3   3   3   
Bobo  11  11   5   3   3   3   3   2   2
ChiT  11   4   4   3   3            
Lil   12   6   5   3   2



Same thing, but cumulative

        1     2     3     4     5     6     7     8 
        
KDB   117   224   331   405   479   530   573   605   
Hea   133   227   316   390   450   506   558   592   
Ice   130   233   316   369   417   464   511   555   
Bull   83   164   226   288   348   401   452   502   
WTTD  136   244   310   366   411   455   492   518   
LMA   144   225   291   351   400   444   484   512   
SS    188   261   320   377   422   461   494   506   
BMG   158   280   371   429   463   496   501   507   
DC    105   205   272   315   356   394   429   456   
SA    130   212   274   329   380   415   448   479   
nth    92   177   257   307   352   396   435   460   
TWSS  140   246   325   385   413   429   436   443   
Wake  122   192   255   296   336   372   400   420   
Bobo  142   204   262   295   324   351   365   379   
ChiT   73   143   203   262   315   347   366   383   
Lil    55   108   161   209   254   295   319   334   
                           
                           
        9    10    11    12    13    14    15    16    17
KDB   631   641   644   647   650            
Hea   620   632   636   639   641            
Ice   591   599   605   609   612   615   617   619   621
Bull  531   550   558   563   568   572         
WTTD  526   531   535   539   542   545   548   550   
LMA   517   522   525   529   533   535         
SS    513   518   521   524   525            
BMG   511   516   521   523               
DC    466   475   481   486   490   494   497   501   
SA    485   488   491   494   497   499         
nth   478   481                     
TWSS  449   453   456   459   463   465         
Wake  431   437   442   446   449   452   455   458   
Bobo  390   401   406   409   412   414   417   419   421
ChiT  394   399   402   406   409            
Lil   347   353   358   361   363

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