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1 position Vs 2 position training.

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147390.24 in reply to 147390.20
Date: 6/20/2010 11:59:09 AM
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The point that I was illustrating was that the team that came 5th has many players with salaries that you cannot achieve using 2 position training by the time the player is 21 or 22.

Let me put it another way, wouldn't it be better for your team to have 8 older players (24 and older) with skills that are a better than the 21 or 22 year old you would have been training? They would cost less as well.
So you will have 8 older players that are superior in skill to help you win games, and you can focus on training 3 young 18 year olds at a quicker rate.

In your method, you will have 6 older players, and 6 trainees. Those 6 trainees will not be as good as the older players.
So your overall team won't be as good, and your trainees won't be improving that quickly individually.

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147390.26 in reply to 147390.24
Date: 6/20/2010 5:05:31 PM
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Thanks to all of you for replying.

This is my first season and I have made it to the final game starting on Tuesday. So, next season I will be in division three. I will train two positions although I probably won`t be able to compete in that league, the other teams will probably be much better than me.

One of the things I love about this game is the willingness of everyone to help one another.

Thanks again and good luck with the future of your teams.

Scipio.

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147390.28 in reply to 147390.27
Date: 6/22/2010 12:45:25 PM
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Thanks Manon, much appreciated.

Good luck with your teams future.

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Date: 6/22/2010 12:53:27 PM
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which is the training for outside D?

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Date: 6/22/2010 12:57:26 PM
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147390.31 in reply to 147390.1
Date: 6/22/2010 3:33:56 PM
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2 position improves your team more

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147390.33 in reply to 147390.32
Date: 6/22/2010 9:48:07 PM
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Im essentially saying the financial reward for training right now is as low as its been for a while... so, if we agree there is a premium paid to sign a 18/19yo rookie with 60-70 skill points, I'd rather pay the same amount to pick up a 20/21yo with 85-90 skill points (examples only) even a 22/23yo with 100 points.

On any player with sufficient upside potential up to age 23/24 you should be able to improve to become more valuable with training so from a performance perspective and possibly wage you could let someone else do the work...

MEANWHILE Im not suggesting you sit back and dont train yourself... you should always be looking at ways to train to make money... but when bringing in new players, why bother paying 2mil for a fresh rookie when that 2mil can find you the same rookie +12-15 skill ups at age 20?

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147390.34 in reply to 147390.2
Date: 6/23/2010 5:20:02 AM
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2 position will make your team better quicker. However, 2 position training is a little slower than 1 position training. So 1 position training is used for creating really good players/national team and U21 players.

Unless you have 3 fantastic prospects (or even 1 very good prospect) that you want to get on to the national team, or unless you are in a high division, you should do 2 position training.

The reason I wouldn't recommend it in a higher division is that it is hard to train 6 rookies and still win games.


I thought I should react, cause I don't think your answer is completely correct.

Just talking about the short term training, you are correct that 2 position training is better, your team will improve more.

However this also means that if you're setting a long term goal for your players to reach, that training time will take a few more seasons for your players, than 1 position training does. The older the player gets, the slower the training goes. So at some point it will even out and 1 position training will be better, however the question arises, when is this turning point?

Purely seen at training speed, it depends on your training goal which is better.

But one position training has got some other pro's and con's :
- (at the start) You can invest the same money in better quality trainees, especially when you start Buzzerbeater this might be a very good idea *
- with one position training, you're players might have a chance at U21/NT (who doesn't wat that?) *
- value of these players on the market will be better, but you also have few players to sell.
- often your starting 5 will be better with one position training
- you're bench will definitely be worse
- when your one position trained guy is injured, your team will really miss something.

and finally you're argument, the further in the game you get it's easier to train 3 rookies and win games, than training 6 rookies and win games, this reason combined with the reason marked with the *, made me choose for one position training.

It depends on the situation which choice is better, but I feel one position training is better in more cases.



Last edited by Arsjitekt at 6/23/2010 5:20:45 AM

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