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158850.24 in reply to 158850.23
Date: 10/11/2010 8:58:32 AM
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@intendis - how much do you like to coach the Philippines? and what game play do you prefer to do in the team if you win, Offense over Defense or Defense over Offense (Choose only one)


@feroza - I know your very active in the chat every live game's. This is my question, I know that the former u21 managers have done new things every season. If you win, What NEW THINGS will you do to top what have they done before to our u21? Explain it clearly and detailed.

-thank you
From me a concern voter.

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158850.25 in reply to 158850.24
Date: 10/11/2010 9:17:41 AM
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how much i would like to coach the Philippines? 110%

i prefer the defense, what sense does is have, if your player makes 20 points, but his directly opponent scores 35?

defense comes first, after that high passing skills, because without the right flow, your offense won't work :-)

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158850.26 in reply to 158850.24
Date: 10/11/2010 10:15:25 AM
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new things? hmm, this is a tricky question. and really hard to answer. ^_^

actually, i don't have any. the information campaign has been done by our previous managers liacruz and harmless. they brought awareness to the managers in the lower divisions the importance of training young players. my job now is to harness the skills of the players trained by the current managers. this is easy if the managers took heed of what liacruz and harmless campaigned for.

but if not, i will continue spreading the word and convince our managers to train their rookies with nice potential to be included in the U21 team so that the future managers will have a rather easier time with the U21.

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158850.27 in reply to 158850.25
Date: 10/11/2010 11:26:09 AM
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So its like your looking for players with high ID or OD and with high Passing? And Please Explain Why?

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158850.28 in reply to 158850.26
Date: 10/11/2010 11:29:37 AM
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Good Point. But don't you think you need to add some twist if you win? And to the "Train Their Rookies With Good Potential" I am one of those managers that are training to help us make our country proud. In season 17 and 18 i hope my two best trainees will be on the line-up of U21. hope so. :)

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158850.29 in reply to 158850.27
Date: 10/11/2010 11:45:17 AM
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hmm, i thought i have explianed this in my post above, but i can tell it once again, simplified it is just this fact, that you won't win a game although your team makes 150 points, if the opponent scores 170

of course you have to choose the best player, so i never would take a player with

js 7 jr 7
od 18 handl 7
drive 7 pass 7

if you could have one with

js 14 jr 12
od 12 handl 10
drive 10 pass 10

even though the od is much higher, only if i have to decide, if I want a player with one more skill in range or a player with one more skill in outside defense, i would decide for the player with the higher defense

in addition to that, i like high role players, in case i decide for a run and gun offense my center should have a lot rebound and inside defense, but the inside shot wouldn't be that important, because the center has just the function to defend and win the rebound, for the guards this would have the effect, that they have to throw better as if i play look inside, but they passing skill isn't that important, because the ball doesn't have to get into the zone, they have to throw from downtown

I hope you understand what I mean

it gets really clear, if you look at the position of the small forward, you will have two complet different players for each tactic on the court

it would be optimal if I had three different, but equipollent players in my roster, one for outside and one for inside tactics and one balanced skilled player, often unfortunately this is not the case, because you've got one everyone topping player in your roster, who has to play for every single tactic :-)

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158850.30 in reply to 158850.22
Date: 10/11/2010 6:20:16 PM
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if you are in div II, every season, a team from PPL will be relegated to your division and it is highly likely that that team is better than most of the teams in the division or league. this is the very reason why it is really hard to pursue promotion. in league games, tenure is a very huge advantage.

i can see the argument here because it is harder to advance from div II to the PPL than from div III to div II, but you have been in div III for 5 season already. i think that you have tenured your team long enough to somehow be able to advance in the next division.

adjustment is the game in the lower division, if you would ask me.

actually, in all divisions. =)

is it safe to say that those who are playing in the PPL is the only pool of players who are good in BB here in the philippines? we can include div II players there but it's somewhat unjust, unfair and somewhat conceited to think so.

i'm not saying that, but what division you are in tells a lot about your managing skills.

getting promotion in your own league is a mixture of skills and luck. in the international competition, we really cannot and should not rely on luck.
yes, but you must have a concrete plan. what's yours?


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158850.31 in reply to 158850.29
Date: 10/11/2010 6:21:48 PM
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in your opinion, what do you think you did wrong that caused your relegation from your top league?

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158850.32 in reply to 158850.1
Date: 10/11/2010 8:35:59 PM
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To All Aspirants,

What are your long term and short term goals/plans? Please specify weeks/months and be specific.

Thanks.

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158850.33 in reply to 158850.30
Date: 10/11/2010 9:54:02 PM
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i can see the argument here because it is harder to advance from div II to the PPL than from div III to div II, but you have been in div III for 5 season already.


actually, it's just the same. income is bigger in higher divisions so it will be easier to recruit players who will be able to help you a lot. and this is just my fifth season in div III so i've been there four. ^_^

i think that you have tenured your team long enough to somehow be able to advance in the next division.


yes and no. yes, i have been in my league for some time now and no i have not tenured enough because there are managers who have been playing the game long before i did who are in my league right now.

besides, managing your own team for promotion includes training, selling and recruiting players, expanding arena and saving for salaries. you don't do that in a U21 team. ^_^

actually, in all divisions. =)


i know but when you are in PPL, you don't have to grip yourself every season for a team who will be relegated to your league because there's no higher league than PPL in the philippines. i said that bit because every season, a team from div II, which is already an elite division, gets relegated to our league. i hope you got my drift.


i'm not saying that, but what division you are in tells a lot about your managing skills.


partially correct. luck plays a role here also. aside from getting a rookie you can sell for high price, teams in your league will also determine if you would get the promotion or not.

yes, but you must have a concrete plan. what's yours?


about what? the U21 team or my team? if you're speaking about my team, i already got myself a front man who will be the anchor of my team and i'd say if i don't get promoted this season, next season will be my last season in div III.

but if you're talking about the U21, of course, like everyone else, i will assemble the best team we can get. i plan to get 16 players that i can mix and match depending on who we're up against. this is to counter the other team's strength, attack their weakness and keep the other teams guessing about who will play in our next game and what offense we will use.

Last edited by Sharen at 10/11/2010 10:03:22 PM

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158850.34 in reply to 158850.33
Date: 10/12/2010 12:21:31 AM
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sa aking palagay, hindi pwedeng sabihin na pareho lang ang div 3, div 2 at ppl. ...kung level of competition,mas mataas ang level ng kompetisyon sa div2 at ppl kumpara sa div 3. kaya kung exposure sa level ng kompetisyon ang pag uusapan mas lamang ang mga taga ppl at div 2 kumpara sa taga div 3.

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