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Throwing pies at a comedian is funny.

What Plotts meant, I am certain, was throwing tomatoes, which is a way that people used to express their dislike of things.
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Ok, everybody just kicks at Ozzy...but is it right that the prices --> conditions for the game should vary this much in just a short time?

Yes and no.
I see no negative point in the game punishing you if you don't adapt to new circumstances. His new circumstances are that he got relegated and it's well-known that it's hard to fill your arena if you get relegated...

I of course agree with this. But the thing is also the transfer prices...he is right that players bought for 6M today give you 1M...

yeah but even in the past those 6m dudes are rare, and they are mostly top notch dudes where you pay so much because they are so rare and there are few alternatives ;) And also because those dudes, who could buy them get the money blown in their asses(with get better when the league and the salaries reach are certain point, which was unreachable at that point through salry). That those top notch player lose value when there are more of them seems to be logical for me, and that they even get worth less when better players are on market too.

I like to compare that with top notch prozessors, as soon a new modell comes out they drop in prices dramatically and in 2 year you could buy then for nearly for 25% of their original price but when you need their performance it could be still a good investment.

And also this case he said 6 mil, and 1 mil, but he really have two players who are more worth then 6 mils. The 7 Mill Sg, which he could easily sell for one even for two(even when his skill set isn't really popular) and a 8 mil player which he buys
for way to much because he traded him(and maybe also got a fine for it).

PS: the market should be more stable today, because a lot of player reach their caps today, and the salary system is fitting better to the income.

If we keep those clowns (I am looking at you juiced)

::sigh::

Ok, everybody just kicks at Ozzy...but is it right that the prices --> conditions for the game should vary this much in just a short time?

Yes and no.
I see no negative point in the game punishing you if you don't adapt to new circumstances. His new circumstances are that he got relegated and it's well-known that it's hard to fill your arena if you get relegated...

I of course agree with this. But the thing is also the transfer prices...he is right that players bought for 6M today give you 1M...

yeah but even in the past those 6m dudes are rare, and they are mostly top notch dudes where you pay so much because they are so rare and there are few alternatives ;) And also because those dudes, who could buy them get the money blown in their asses(with get better when the league and the salaries reach are certain point, which was unreachable at that point through salry). That those top notch player lose value when there are more of them seems to be logical for me, and that they even get worth less when better players are on market too.

I like to compare that with top notch prozessors, as soon a new modell comes out they drop in prices dramatically and in 2 year you could buy then for nearly for 25% of their original price but when you need their performance it could be still a good investment.

And also this case he said 6 mil, and 1 mil, but he really have two players who are more worth then 6 mils. The 7 Mill Sg, which he could easily sell for one even for two(even when his skill set isn't really popular) and a 8 mil player which he buys
for way to much because he traded him(and maybe also got a fine for it).

PS: the market should be more stable today, because a lot of player reach their caps today, and the salary system is fitting better to the income.

I believe the market will be more stable when another dinamic fully develops: first gen of high potential players get old enough to be as bad as they were when rookies.

Expect that same reference in season 22 as well. I will not let it go, kinda like Favre won't let his career go.

Guys... Im playing this game for 13-14 seasons. I know how to manage my team. Just last 2 seasons Im tired of everything.

Im not talking about this season, or about last one. Im talking about whole game! Just check players values in last 5 seasons and everything will be clear.
5 seasons ago I bought player for 7 mil, after one season of training his value was 12 mil. And now, after 5 seasons his "Price Estimate" is 1,5 mil. I bought player for 3,5 mil, and after one week I sold him for 1,5 mil.

I played first league last...idk 2-3 seasons without buying any "player" and I cant earn anything more than paying salaries at end of season. With only 4 good players in your team! Without any substitute! And only one player was with high salary!

What are the ways to earn money in this game?
1- Attendance from only LEAGUE game <---- not enough even for salaries
2- Day trading <==== yes daytrading is only way if you are lucky. Because managers cant have long time plans in this game like I planned. I cant buy the best player from draft and plan to rise him to be the best SF in game, because after 5 seasons his value will be 10 times lower than I expected.

There is no 3. way to earn money! There is no youth academy to promote new players and get some money from there. There is no money at end of season for league achievement, there is no money for MvP title, there is no money from Attendance in cup matches... but we have staffs with extremely high salaries... lolz why?!?

Last edited by Ozzy at 1/22/2011 8:05:29 AM

I've never heard any other managers complaining because of the lack of income.
There are good times but also bad times. Life is never fair, deal with it.

I've never heard any other managers complaining because of the lack of income.
There are good times but also bad times. Life is never fair, deal with it.

Hey pal... without any offense, but you are playing this game only few months. You cant even know what was 3, 5 or 10 seasons ago =.=

With the new changes regarding not having to pay salaries during weeks with no competitive games you will find yourself making a much higher profit now because you will be making money during playoff time and offseason instead of losing money due to paying salaries.

Also, to be fair, if your arena income + merchandising + tv contract isn't enough to pay for your staff and player salaries and scouting then you are spending too much money and need to cut back.

And there is another way to make money, training players.

I've never heard any other managers complaining because of the lack of income.
There are good times but also bad times. Life is never fair, deal with it.

Hey pal... without any offense, but you are playing this game only few months. You cant even know what was 3, 5 or 10 seasons ago =.=

One of your points is that in the past the players had more values and could sold for much more than today. Well I understand that it is stressful because overall you're losing a lot of money. But then what can you do??? Everybody is under the same circumstances. You cannot simply blame BB for that. You just have to accept that fact and deal with it. If it's only you who're in this circumstances, that's a different story, but know that everybody is in the same situation.