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There should be a room somewhere where cheaters would be tied and handed over to the vindictiveness of other users.
We would come and throw things at them like pillows or force them to eat marshmallows soaked in tabasco.

That would be much more effective than a list IMHO.

Since the objective is to scare off and shame potential cheaters, you want to do it properly. Stopping cheaters is not enough, we need revenge aswell.

I find the original suggestion weak and overly cautious ;)

I could imagine that it will encourage light cheating, and endless discussions.

Because when i know i get fined like this for doing that, i could check if it worth it to risk it and also people come on complaining and say why this guy get a 200k fine for this transfer and i got a 250k fine for a similiar transfer etc.

Shouldn't be that list scaring enough for cheaters? -> (http://www.buzzerbeater.com/community/cheatReport.aspx)

I'm in complete agreement here. Since GM decisions aren't up for debate, I have a feeling that this would just make their jobs harder.

I see the following additional problems:
• The forums would be mess of complaints about a user or his friend getting his team locked, or fined, or kicked in the nuts or whatever it is GMs do to people; which would force GMs to not only issue the fines and kicks, but also close the threads

• Kamikaze teams with loads of cash who are quitting anyway could see how many times they could get fined before they went broke, for all the world to see (I know I'd do this simply for the laugh factor), leading to more work for the GMs and more kicks to the nuts, and most importantly,

• Someone would have to design the freaking page that displayed this information, make sure it was free of bugs and displayed the information correctly. Hahahaha who am I kidding, that wouldn't happen, we still have teammates guarding each other while shooting in the match viewer, and the same Oops page since they launched the new design that says "We are working on fixing this more elegantly," etc.

Other than that, and the reasons CrazyEye mentioned, I think it's a spectacular idea.

dear all thank you for any feedback,


this is for instance a typical pillory of a popular online game
http://board.gladiatus.com/index.php?form=Warn&s=f1a4...

its just a list...no hard feelings....no arguments, no debates....
if you really think about it there is NO really any reason for the GMs to act like their handling a matter of life or death....its just a list of those who dont play by the BB's rules...
its not like the end of the world.....

i read about rumours of people jeopardising their fame, feelings of revenge, upset such a list might bring to users in all communities....and i think there is a bit of an exaggeration....

this is for instance a typical pillory of a popular online game
http://board.gladiatus.com/index.php?form=Warn&s=f1a4...

And now? How does it change the fairness in the game if you put people on the list that commited major and minor "crimes"?

I mean "insult" are you serious? lol

if i start swearing at you.....some people might consider it ..an insult....:))))

besides i only gave an example of how a pillory could work. Choosing the "right" words is up to the LAs

a pillory works in a "preventative" way....i hope you are aware of a saying..."better prevent than treat...."
people should be discouraged from insulting others, or try to win in a non appropriate manner...


but honestly, why are you so against in making public any penalties...?

Last edited by akage14 at 2/10/2011 2:34:44 PM

Who would read those lists anyway? I think those measures will not work, or can you provide that such measures lower the amount of cheating or other unwanted behaviour.

It seems to me it would be as useful as the death penalty when it comes to preventing major crimes - it doesnt work at all...

I think that if people could physically see in these lists that their cheating reports were actually resulting in fines/bans then more people would be inclined to report cheating because they are confident something would be done about it and in this sense it would catch more cheaters.

Whilst you might think that the death penalty doesn't deter major crimes, I think this situation is different. If there was public humiliation for all real life crimes, I think it would deter people, and this would be similar here.

It seems to me it would be as useful as the death penalty when it comes to preventing major crimes - it doesnt work at all...

whoaooo :)))) this is getting really serious now..... i think we should leave aside serious real life issues and would rather stick to buzzerbeater.

i would read the list (not daily though, i do have other matters to attend..:)))
i would for instance in order to see whether the team that i thought was suspicious for cheating has been banned or fined...

life is complicated as it is,so i dont have the luxury of spending my time patroling and police buzzerbeater,other people are willing to do so...

BUT since the game itself is asking for OUR contribution to prevent people from cheating then i only think its fair for the game to give us some feedback on that same help they asked us for...

I think that if people could physically see in these lists that their cheating reports were actually resulting in fines/bans then more people would be inclined to report cheating because they are confident something would be done about it and in this sense it would catch more cheaters.

Whilst you might think that the death penalty doesn't deter major crimes, I think this situation is different. If there was public humiliation for all real life crimes, I think it would deter people, and this would be similar here.

those pillorys work, because they are important because you normally can not attack people who are temporarely banned ;) So you had to know when he attacks again, or you could attack him - i don't see this senario here or temporarly bans who expire.(ok you could register again after a while, BUT you won't see this at the pillory or the "new" user).

And lot of people who get "finned" don't do anything wrong, they just had the bad luck that someone don't wanted to be in a bid war and have no idea about prices or want to spend his money before he quits etc.

Also i don't know why it get more scary when, you see daily 20 names of banned person you don't know, instead of seeing that there are ~120 banned people last week(yes this number is pretty constant)

I think that if people could physically see in these lists that their cheating reports were actually resulting in fines/bans then more people would be inclined to report cheating because they are confident something would be done about it and in this sense it would catch more cheaters.

Whilst you might think that the death penalty doesn't deter major crimes, I think this situation is different. If there was public humiliation for all real life crimes, I think it would deter people, and this would be similar here.

And if the increase in reports would lead to the same amount of bans/penalites everybody would start ranting about how their complaints are not taken serious.

"public" and internet dont fit together. What would it give to me if I knew user "sweetgurl69" from the US was fined 200k for bad transfers? Or user MOCKBA887 from Russia banned for multiaccounting? I really dont see the benefit from it.