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178509.24 in reply to 178509.21
Date: 3/28/2011 3:59:17 AM
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Jump Shot: prolific Jump Range: proficient
Outside Def.: sensational Handling: sensational
Driving: sensational Passing: sensational
Inside Shot: respectable Inside Def.: pitiful
Rebounding: respectable Shot Blocking: average
Stamina: pitiful Free Throw: awful

I think that would be a fine division II point guard.


I agree but I doubt he will make it to those skills with star potential. 1 big fallacy I find in people predicting training is that they look at salary and think if I train secondaries and train my primaries evenly then I can pack more skills in as my salaries are still low.

But unfortunately it is a skill cap and not a salary cap. There is only so many skills you can squeeze onto a player until he caps so I find counting skill points a better indicator than trying to just look at his salary.

From experience, what you describe above is pretty much already beyond the cap for a star potential player. I once had a star potential C with some decent secondaries which was capped at 38K (before the salary drops in the last 2 seasons too) so I would think that the cap salary estimates are way too high

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178509.25 in reply to 178509.23
Date: 3/28/2011 4:43:43 AM
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60k guards with good secondaries for less than 2 mill.And especially not one with only star potential.


prove it. also guards you dont mean some JS/JR or One on one monster with some id like mediocre

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178509.26 in reply to 178509.25
Date: 3/28/2011 5:21:31 AM
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Just look on the transfer market. There are plenty of guards that are above 60k salary and less than 2 mill. They are also not one dimensional and have decent secondaries.

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178509.27 in reply to 178509.26
Date: 3/28/2011 5:31:46 AM
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Here is a star potential player I just saw by chance.

Shooting Guard
Weekly salary: $ 34 917
Age: 25
Height: 5'11" / 180 cm
Potential: star
Game Shape: respectable
Jump Shot: prodigious Jump Range: proficient
Outside Def.: sensational Handling: tremendous
Driving: marvelous Passing: mediocre
Inside Shot: atrocious Inside Def.: pitiful
Rebounding: awful Shot Blocking: atrocious
Stamina: inept Free Throw: mediocre Experience: mediocre


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178509.28 in reply to 178509.26
Date: 3/28/2011 5:39:43 AM
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do you actually follow them? they dont go for less than 2m after the bid end, unless they are really old.

just search the TL list, all of them have flaws as guards... pure defense, too much JS, not enough passing... and by decent secondaries... do you just think that a guard with like 1 average in secondaries counts as decent? well I think of my guards have only decent secondaries and they certain have alot more than that. if a guard only 1 secondary then it has to be strong to be even consider decent...

Last edited by SplitJ at 3/28/2011 5:46:16 AM

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178509.29 in reply to 178509.27
Date: 3/28/2011 5:48:48 AM
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Yes but look at his secondaries. Sacrificed the secondary skills in order to have higher primaries.

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178509.30 in reply to 178509.28
Date: 3/28/2011 5:52:14 AM
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I can tell you I have seen guards go for less than 2 mill.

And by decent secondaries I refer to having at least 2 skills (IS, ID or REB) above respectable. If you are paying over 2 mill then you are significantly overpaying for them.

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178509.31 in reply to 178509.29
Date: 3/28/2011 5:54:23 AM
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Well that is good news for my star player Oliver. I am constantly worried he is capped but lucky for me he has completly pathetic secondaries. I still think it can't just be total number of skills even though others have also said this and I have even read the numbers. Surely handling doesn't cap you as fast as outside defence?

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178509.32 in reply to 178509.30
Date: 3/28/2011 6:07:03 AM
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Of these, the ones with skills most similar to Prokopis Venizelos have been selling for around $ 2 050 000 to $ 2 550 000.


I rest my case...

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178509.33 in reply to 178509.32
Date: 3/28/2011 6:11:24 AM
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I don't know what his skills are so I can't comment.

Also you are looking at 21 year olds. I was looking at older/non trainees like 25-27 year olds

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178509.34 in reply to 178509.33
Date: 3/28/2011 6:28:30 AM
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we are dicussing done trainees arent we? 23-25... since when he is done training he will be that lol...

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