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From: Bigcatjc

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Date: 6/15/2011 4:55:51 PM
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And yet Patient is labeled by the game manual as a neutral offense, which is incredibly misleading.

So really, the game has 4 outside offenses, 2 inside, and 2 neutral. And then whatever those goddawful isolation offenses achieve, which I hear is close to nothing, similar to the box and 1 defenses which are probably the worst defenses in the game including full court press.

From: Bigcatjc

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Date: 6/15/2011 7:06:59 PM
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Or maybe I'm just a realist. Maybe if constantly hearing things from top B3 and NT managers, and actually playing AGAINST these tactics and seeing their utter uselessness, I can acknowledge that they are in fact, useless.

If I'm going to use something on this game, it'd better be something that is established and well renowned and universally conducive to winning games. Not just doing something because no one else does it. Literally the virtual browser game equivalent of hipsters.

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Date: 6/15/2011 7:34:53 PM
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It may be useless to you but it certainly isn't for every other manager out there. Every tactic has its advantages and disadvantages and requires specific types of players to play it successfully.

If you don't have the offensive flow to pull off patient without taking a lot of bad/rushed outside shots then it is clearly a problem with your team not having the right players to play it rather than the tactic itself being useless.

There have been plenty of examples already given that patient can work when used correctly.

From: pmfg10

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Date: 6/15/2011 7:54:23 PM
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I think that you're the useless one here.

From: Bigcatjc

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Date: 6/15/2011 8:52:44 PM
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And it what case is Run and Gun not a better option, outside of, like you said, protecting trainees?

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Date: 6/16/2011 2:36:14 AM
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Patient is a good way to exploit a zone, but bad if your best shooter is up against the strong part of the zone. EG a good PG against 3-2.


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Date: 6/16/2011 11:51:59 AM
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If your a realist you should get a lot of fact instead of just believing the first thing you hear around here. You've got a lot of people here saying that it does work. So take your realistic thinking and put 1 and 1 together.
Sure it is well known that nothing can stop a well oiled LI offense with 20+ IS and 12 JS to go with some passing as well as RB and ID. Guards with lots of offensive flow, driving and some IS to. But then again how fun is it to just rely on one offense all the time? And for it to work as you want you would need to invest in some real expensive post players and that will need a lot of money for their salary.
Since this is a game and were free to do as we please your free to do whatever you like. But dont remember to have fun along the way.


And just think what will happen to the 1 offense teams if LI becomes weaker/other offenses get better/2-3 works better.

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