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From: Kukoc

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197980.24 in reply to 197980.21
Date: 10/10/2011 2:33:44 AM
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The 14 games deadline would not work just because of new rookies coming from draft. If you buy a trainee, you should not be forced to play him in league games. Usually it's the cup game that nets those 48 minutes. I think there should be a trade deadline for cup. This should be set at the time when the neutral ground games start. I don't know how easy it is to create 2 separate deadlines. How many bugs will come out of it (I'm already thinking about players unable to play league games or scrimmages because of that deadline etc.). 14 games is obviously too harsh (even 5 games is quarter of a season). Also so many different restrictions would make the game complicated to follow and would be additional load for the servers (tracking every transfers restrictions etc). Trade deadline is easier imo.

From: Kukoc

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197980.26 in reply to 197980.25
Date: 10/10/2011 5:18:09 AM
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What about the second year 19 year old? If he has played only in cup and scrimmage games, he still has 0 league games under his belt. Now even if you make all games for teamxxx count, what if he get's injured. There are 14 weeks in a season. Not playing one week, will force you to play him atleast 2 times one of those weeks. It just seems so silly you have to play him in certain games in order to be able to use him in cup the next season. When suggesting something always try your suggestion out with a few simple schenarios, that are widely used.
Perhaps he can play after certain amount of days (similar to retransfering) as paperwork takes some time. Still deadline would be the better option. Transfers between clubs nowdays (when the agreement has happened) is pretty quick. The new player might even play the next day, after beeing acquired. Knowing the teams offence combinations and fitting in, is another story alltogether. But that's beside the point atm.

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From: Kukoc

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197980.28 in reply to 197980.27
Date: 10/10/2011 10:49:08 AM
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It must be something stong, because I myself can't understand why I thought you said 14 games. Go figure... 2 weeks could be ok, with rookie exception.

From: GM-hrudey

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197980.29 in reply to 197980.21
Date: 10/10/2011 11:18:25 AM
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Putting a transfer deadline on the cup though is difficult I think.- My suggestion in simplifying it so taht it can work in all nations with such different cup lengths etc. Is make it like specific to each game not each round. In order to play in a cup game a player must be with a team 14 days. So on the player page in your roster etc. it would give you like a read message 'this player has only been on your team 13 days and can not play in your cup games yet. In order to play in the cup for your team this player must be on your team for atleast 14 days'


That's a simple, straightforward and reasonable suggestion that cuts right to the heart of the problem. +1 from me!

If teams have money, excluding those who have cheated, they've earned it and should be able to use it to improve the team. I think the bigger issue is when players are treated as commodities to be bought and played and sold with no thought for team cohesiveness. This would at least be a step away from that.

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197980.30 in reply to 197980.29
Date: 10/10/2011 11:44:55 AM
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I also love the idea! On the other hand, when you think you'll have to pay him 2 weeks before he can eventually help your team out, that sounds a little bit harsch.

From: Kukoc

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197980.31 in reply to 197980.29
Date: 10/10/2011 11:45:38 AM
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I still think some kind of deadline would be a much better option. The problem is not the first rounds of the cup (where the teams are still building) it's the odd, sign players now and win the cup.

From: GM-hrudey

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197980.32 in reply to 197980.31
Date: 10/10/2011 12:39:20 PM
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I still think some kind of deadline would be a much better option. The problem is not the first rounds of the cup (where the teams are still building) it's the odd, sign players now and win the cup.


I think personally that if there was some mechanism that actually required teams to be just that -- teams that remain relatively consistent from year to year, with upgrades and new trainees, rather than a collection of mercenaries put together at whatever time needed to win league/cup/b3 matches, it would be on the whole far better. The specific problem you're referencing of course could be fixed with a deadline and if that is the only thing one is concerned about, that seems like a wholly natural solution. I just like other direction myself.

From: chihorn
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197980.33 in reply to 197980.32
Date: 10/10/2011 4:15:37 PM
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Let's have a spontaneous protest that turns into a weeks-long movement!

Occupy Buzzer Beater!

Which reminds me of the time, back when I was living in the warehouse district, if you could call that living, which is what you're barely doing when all you have to eat is raw dried beans because the water would turn your skin orange, not that I have anything against orange-skinned people, and anyway, I sort of remember between all of the monotony and days that seemed like dreams or maybe it was dreams that seemed like days that these kids came by and just sort sort of crashed out, not exactly kids, but you know what I mean, and nobody asked them to come by and they wouldn't go away, and so I showed one of them, the one whose skin was already turning orange, how to leave because I thought he forgot how to leave, and when I was showing him, I left, just like that, and I haven't been back there since. I sort of miss those beans, you know?

Don't ask what sort of Chunks they are, you probably don't want to know. Blowing Chunks since Season 4!
From: ezlife
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197980.34 in reply to 197980.30
Date: 10/16/2011 7:41:37 AM
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Very interesting article from NY-Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/12/sports/basketball/owner...

So, salary cap or luxury tax? As far as I know, none of these are used in BB. This has to change!

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