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Ok so if you live in America, then great, yo ucan have an American centered forum for free.

If you live in Japan, shame on you, pay supporter and make a federation and PL to have an active league and forum of guys to play with????

The whole culture commonality thing makes no sense when over 1/2 of the nations in BB are not large enough to support an individual national forum. Japan IS not rare in the BB nations. MOST BB nations are small. MOST BB nations are actually just x-pats of other nations, lots being American.

Your argument makes no sense coming from teh average BB nation. None at all. IF small nation users don't matter cuz there is so few of us, then just remove us form the game alltogether. Require people to live in Italy, Spain, USA etc. and screw you to everyone else if that is how you feel about users from nations wehre BB is not popular. Seriously, I mean this. Right now the nation structure in BB is MAKING FUN of most nations. Think about it. You make a game that works only for you guys in the US, leave it broken for over 1/2 the rest of the world and do nothing to remedy the problem for 20+ seasons.....

Yeah, but it's free if you want it to be, so no one can really complain too loudly.

I think you are spot on Wolph. I am in this game for the challenge and for the community. In Sweden we have enough teams to make it a challenge. But I really would like it to be even more of a challenge. I would prefer if it would require almost as much to reach highest division as it requires to win it today.

To play in a league where you only got 4-5 competitors are something that I have tried in other manager games and it sucks. In Football Arena we have about 12 half active teams and most of these teams never buy new players, i.e. which proves their extremely small involvement. Pretty sure that I could win the league for some seasons in a row if I tried. As the Swedish league is so weak it is pretty obvious why there have been so extremely few new teams that lasted for a while since I started despite being a decent manager game. It must be very similar in countries with 30-40 users in BB. That you could play in B3 is pretty pointless. Not even in medium-sized countries like Sweden do the teams that qualify for B3 bother about it.

None at all. IF small nation users don't matter cuz there is so few of us, then just remove us form the game alltogether. Require people to live in Italy, Spain, USA etc. and screw you to everyone else if that is how you feel about users from nations wehre BB is not popular.

Maybe we're looking at this from the wrong angle. Instead of trying to solve a "micronation" issue, what if we just got rid of nations altogether and had one big honking league structure? I suppose it would require some changes to the Cup - maybe a separate lower-level tournament, similar to how England has the FA Trophy, Football League Cup, Football League Trophy in addition to their FA Cup. Or we could allow teams to still identify themselves as being part of nations and still keep the existing national tournaments, though the thought of having some teams in a league having different opportunities for TIEing easy Cup matches as a structural issue rather than based on random matchups is problematic.

Of course, if we get rid of nations, we kill off NTs, U21 and the B3 - which is why this would never fly, though I can honestly say I wouldn't miss a one of them if they left. And it would take massive upheaval to get it set up - so I suppose this would only work for a BB 2.0 reboot type scenario. But I suppose any real solution to this is going to be a fairly significant overhaul, which may be part of the reason why nothing has been done and nothing is likely to happen.

The best team to qualify before me (that hasn't quit) went into tank mode for several seasons to save cash etc...didn't compete b3 or domestic...just saved up money. I have thought to go this route a few times.

Come on...Stunners trains his butt off for the NT and his own team and he is doing it with a level 7 trainer...do you know that he made over 150K in Merchandise a couple of weeks ago. That is how he is saving up big bucks..

You are wrong again..Swoosh had 4 NT players who were getting playing time on the NT(Now 3 because Haga just got the boot from the U-21 team) and he was getting over 130K during the season. He doesn't have any big salary guys. NT players who play give you a bigger boost in Merchandise than some 230K non-NT monster.
And I was replying to your statement about how Stunners was just tanking......When he was actually training one of the best young players in Japan(mastuyama). Sitting around with level 1 staff and collecting cash and Training with a 7 trainer and a 5 doctor(so his NT players didn't get hurt) is a big difference. You make it sound like the only reason he beat you was due to his tanking when in fact, your salaries were only 40K apart in the Big 8 final.

If you counted ALL of his merchandise for an entire season, at 150k a week...that's 2.3 million. It would take him an entire season of that merch money to buy one of this foreign built, foreign trained, foreign NT players that are earning all his money...

He only has one Non-Japanese NT player right now....I have no clue to why you even wrote this. His C isn't on the Chinese NT team. Like I said before in my post..he is getting very little from his non-japanese NT player and a grip from his two JAPANESE NT Starters...that and being the BIG 8 champ isn't hurting him either.

You really aren't that bad at math are you????????????????????

I always love you personal attacks attached at the end of you post....they do make me laugh


Last edited by Yellow cake at 2/27/2013 7:39:53 PM