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German NT, not German GM But yeah, that was the story. One city had / has a big community inside BB. They decided to run a candidate who promised only to call up players from that city in exchange. That´s not manipulation, that´s politics.

The users of a community can see where there have been trolling and where there's been mismanagement.That's why Biffo proposed solution seems like the fairest one for situations like that
You can't make a precise rule abut mismanagement,if that's your question(but it wouldn't be more than a rethorical question)

The Australian PM also haold about a 26% approval rating and it would take an alien invasion to save her now.

The incompetent Italian should not have been removed. Slackness and mistakes are one thing. Corruption and deliberate sabotage are quite different.

The Australian PM also haold about a 26% approval rating and it would take an alien invasion to save her now.

The incompetent Italian should not (and was not) have been removed. Slackness and mistakes are one thing. Corruption and deliberate sabotage are quite different.

Sorry but... how can you judge so clearly? How can you be so sure? How can you say that the italian manager wasn't sabotaging? I don't know for sure, I have the feeling that he wasn't doing it on purpose. But that's my, and only mine, guess.
Managing the NT is not only "set the line-up and we're good". That's just the final step, and probably the easiest part of the job. And he even failed at that since he lost to Nigeria his first game playing with 4 players (wasting also team spirit), and some of the other games were played with the standard line-up, wasting team spirit again. Because, yes, after the first match with 4 players he set the standard line-up (which he forgot to do at start) and basically he went with that, even when some players were in horrible shape, they were playing (sign that he didn't even bother to modify the standard line-up).
But as I said before, that's just the minor part. He destroyed the NT staff (if the coach doesn't care, why should I? - can't blame these people honestly, this isn't a paid job), never talked to U21 manager for some coordination, destroyed the DB and didn't want to organize scrimmages even if the entire community was pushing for it ("some people inside the staff will the decide the line-up, you just have to press the button" - never answered to that).
You know, Italy is the most winning country on BB, we take things seriously (too much, I think). You can't get out of all this by just saying "I have to study, I have no time" because that could be true (in which case you're stupid, why did you run for the elections?) but that could be just a lame excuse.
Right now Bill, the current coach, has done so much for rebuilding everything, and he's finally dedicating to the players' development. He had to scout ALL the players again. One. by. one. He had to persuade some people to stay or join the staff again. And so on. The damage that has been done was huge, also because the previous management wasn't that brilliant, this was another nail in the coffin.

And you're so sure that this is just "slackness"? I don't know man, I may agree, some may not, can you blame them?

Again: the line is thinner than we may think.

Last edited by Biffo (*DT Member) at 6/23/2013 10:55:47 AM

Again: the line is thinner than we may think.

No,it's not.You are making an hypotetical reasoning now,but the fact is that what we as Italian community require to italian coahces is a lot of work.What can be considered a really poor work from us,could be considered a meh-ok job somewhere else
You know that in our community I'm critic when I feel the need to be it.
But we are beyond this way.You can see when some things happen because of an isolate mistake,because of poor managing or because of a clear sabotaging

I've exchanged a few PMs with the Lithuania U21 manager (he speaks English). He knows exactly what he is doing. He's sabotaging the U21 in order to gain profit for his own club. According to him, he "didn't brake any rules".

Last edited by Coolbobj at 6/23/2013 4:48:38 PM

Yes he didn't brake any rules. So maybe its time to create some ?
Could somebody from BB gods to tell us what was in the end of story ? As we can see Mig now couch of U21 team. What about Kazlėkas ? Just kicked out and its all ?

Last edited by FenXas at 6/24/2013 2:02:04 PM

Yep, he's just kicked out.