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Unless you buy trainees that you increase the value on by training them.

And again, training is at the expense of competing your best to win games. The disregard for winning games that you show isn't just you. Don't get me wrong. It is how the game is built, a sports sim that isn't about winning.

You really have so much to learn about this game. What's amazing is the amount of guys in these forums trying to help you learn and you just keep resisting. My ENTIRE career I have relied on trainees as a core part of my team. I am not here to tout my own success, but considering I have been to the finals in 11 of 21 seasons playing this game, I can confidently state you can not only prioritize winning, but actually win while training players.

This past season I promoted from D2 while relying heavily on a $12K trainee, and a $7K trainee.

think it becomes too expensive to train out of position in D1, but I agree in general with this statement (I trained out of position 1 week out of 4 so far). .

I totally agree...and full disclosure, I did my out of position training during a tanking season. There is no way I could train out of position with these players and compete against these great D1 teams, let alone beat them.

Yes, I agree that investing in the arena while still being competitive is the key balance, which is a far cry from an unqualified "build as big and as fast as possible."

MOST NEW USERS DON"T BUILD … Teams lack the seats to get to the next level. They are being out-earned by bigger arenas.

What I am trying to say is "too much arena" is bad while "too small arena" is bad too.

Woohoo, it looks like we have agreement all the way around, although we all have a different way of stating it. Now see ... that wasn’t so painful, was it?

I played BB for 20+ seasons, quit and now I'm back since 4-5 seasons. I'm currently playing at Brazil II division, my arena has just been upgraded to 7,7k (from 7,1k) and I usually make of the average revenue of rivals who have arenas as big as 15k and thus have spent millions and millions more than me to end up making virtually the same money as I do. Of course I think an arena 7,7k big is not big enough, but it is more than big enough for a team which is 4-5 seasons old and plays at a II division.

So actually I'm writing this to thank the users who keep repeating ad eternum that newcomers should expand their arenas as top priority. This kind of advice makes my life here much easier, since it keeps new managers burying their hard earned money on seats they don't need instead of investing in trainees, players etc.

TRIVIA

a 10k arena can make more money than a 20k arena due to the:

a) weather
b) cheerleaders
c) manager's charisma
d) tickets' prices

Last edited by LA-Bernspin at 8/24/2015 5:18:16 AM

my average receipts (7120 arena, before the recent update) this season have been $ 233k (playing since season 28)
average receipts of a rival with a 15050 arena $ 259k (playing since season 30)
another with a 29750 arena $ 288k (playing since season 12)
highest average receipt of my division 21750 arena $323k (playing since season 2)

my data is taken from Buzzer Manager, why should I lie? arenas in my division range from 7,7k (mine) to 31k; 13 are bigger than 12k; 10 are bigger than 15k; 7 are bigger than 20k; 2 are bigger than 30k; average receipts range from 323k to 179k.

my point is that my team is quite new (only 4 complete seasons). you cannot compare my situation with novo carioca's, for example, who plays since season 1.

in the beginning you can make money not expanding much and playing with prices. you can build carefully. there is no need to rush. your fan base grows with time. this game is a very long term game. i'll keep expanding slowly when my seats will sell out often with max prices. my plans are to promote in 3-4 seasons. by then my arena will be 10-12k, with max prices, it will make the same money as a 20k arena with lower prices and I'll have saved lots of money for other purposes. that's my plan. i'm pretty sure it will work.