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I'm not gonna use TDP as means for scouts... also, i didn't say that they have to post their skills there for NT purposes...

In TDP, it should be fine, because it is on their own will, own risk.

this means that it should be fine, for their own purpose, not for the NT/U21 sake...

if ever they find any talent for U21, it should be sent through PM which is more private...

it's getting hot in here!!!LOL!!!

speaking as a senior member of this community, i believe that it takes more than planning and ideas to run our NT. we all can talk big and say "i will do this, i will do that" but in reality, none of the former NT managers (including me) have been succesful in reaching the final elimination round. Although we can't really blame them for the lack of talent in the Filipino player pool as other countries already had a 2 or 3 season head start compared to us.

i propose that the candidates give us proof (creating a website, opening multiply account, starting a private forum, etc.) that they really are serious in acomplishing their job.

another point i would like other voters to take into consideration is that a NT manager must not only posses organizational skills but as well as SOCIAL skills. he needs this to properly coordinate with his player's owners in order to effectively train them.

please vote wisely.

For now, we are all in planning stage pa muna... because neither of us are sure kung sino ang mananalo sa eleksyon... as for me, I am currently sending messages to managers, not to ask for their votes, but to get information on their players, kasi maigsi na lang ang time span once maupo ka na as coach di ba? and lagi ko sinasabi na training lang muna and i am considering them in case i win the election.

I guess that's the most that we can do, for now.

Last edited by Katchafire Collie at 2/26/2009 4:36:13 AM

I think we should start assembling a staff. People who are willing to help either manager in case they win. Whether it is scouting, mentoring or whatever, we need to have a group of managers we can mobilize.

I think NT coach Norman Black and outgoing U21 coach UbAldo should handle this. I will volunteer myself and I think we should also invite cheri if he wants. Also, a manager from IV.54 (55173) scouted draftees from his division and posted them on the U21 thread. I think we should invite him too.

Wow guys. This is really a good discussion. Hehe.

JSMoove, I believe we have what it takes to compete in the NT level, but of course let's be realistic. We're not at the USA-Spain-Italy level yet.
But doesn't it make you proud that we are able to beat teams ranked in the top 20 i.e. Hongkong. That's no easy feat, but we surely still need some more improvements.

@JSMoove.

Hands down, you are one of the best managers here in BB. But you're goal of having a well-rounded U21/NT team na hindi lagi gumagamit ng Look Inside, well, at this point I dont see that being a good idea. Believe me, we have good guards with wondrous jump shots and all, but with game shape of average and very low perimeter defense, in my opinion wag na lang. Focus on our strengths nalang and hopefully with the likes of Devastator makakakuha narin tayo sa wakas ng malakas na perimeter defender, at the same time scorer. That's what we need talaga.

Ang problema kasi in both U21 and NT natin is we are SO PREDICTABLE. Look inside tayo malakas. that's it. Heck, kkahit nga 3-2 zone lang tayo Average lang yung perimeter defense natin. That's not good.

What we need is proper mentoring, i Agree with you JSMOove. Letting the new users know how to properly train their players.

Good luck to you guys.

And as a segue, JSMoove was one of the first guys who helped me learn the game.

Siya talaga nag BB-mail sakin telling me how to properly train my players. That was when I was still handling my former team CPP-NPA, and when he was handling Celestial.

Sobrang helpful nun, thanks.

You and Norman Black were part of my staff when i was in NT... since Black has his NT responsibilities, I would be seeking your aid as one of the NT scouts... good help is hard to find, so i hope that you'll have ample time for the NT, anyways... work will be easier now than before because of the NT pool right?

One more staff to help with devastator is the Philippine community. what i mean is, helping the NT and U21 is voluntary... I don't force anyone to scout their league, and i would like to give everyone their chance to contribute also... that's how Devastator started, and look where he is right now.

Thank you.

We both lost our teams at the same time kaya I felt that I should help. And look at where we are now. We can challenge na for the top 4 playoff spot sa conference natin. :)

Kaya nga I am an advocate of mentoring talaga, instead of just finding players. We can have a looong list of 18 year old players with 5000 salary, pero a few lang know how to train them.

Like I said, if we can find 10 or 20 dedicated managers who will train their players for the next 2-3 seasons, then we'll be okay. If we communicate with them properly, we can request them to "sculp" their players according to a particular build, like a pure PG, a super defensive SF, and such.

Mentoring talaga is the way to go.

Ang issue ko lang dyan is you should practice what you preach. Why should I allow you to sculp the build of my player if you are not doing the same? I will be sacrificing my training for 2-3 seasons para maximized ang pops tapos pag napromote naman sa NT/U21, kailangan ko naman bantayan ang minutes.

Kc, training a player naman is not sacrificing as is.

What I meant by molding a player is for example have a profi JS, profi OD, tapos promi inside skills. Meaning, sa lahat ng training na gagawin mo for the next few seasons, kasama ung player na un. I will not be sacrificing if he can be your star player for years to come and help you win games, is it?

About sa minutes, sa simula pa lang ng training, ginagawa na yan. ~_~

Sige halimbawa a team has 2 real good young guard trainees and is training them now. So malakas ang outside game nya. In comparison, his inside game is very weak. This draft he gets a 5 star PF na ok idevelop. What should this manager do now?


Off topic: Right now, I wouldn't mind voting for JSmoove kasi si Katcha naman ang GM natin so even if he is not the U21 manager, I am sure he will still play a major role for us.