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259887.240 in reply to 259887.239
Date: 2/11/2015 2:09:39 PM
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Mr Frank's Thankyou for the reply,

I can only speak for myself in saying from season 3 to season 26 I did my own lineups.
I ran into a problem on occasion. ...I faced teams that were substituting players in an odd fashion. ...I found if i defended their best guy well enough with the tactic that was struck down especially a guard would reposition if he was a shooting guard you might see him play at the sf position pretty soon. . With your set lineup that person defending him would not have a chance. ... but i call that coaching and i was not screaming sour grapes. ....I copied it and loved it. I would live with the results of the actions of the coach by letting him. ..... coach. We are GMs and it is our job to put a winning product on the court. We have meddlesome GMs in real life especially in football. .I live in Cleveland I know this personally.

So for me the substitutions and minute distribution of players was far more realistic than the put your lineup here scenario.

It is a step back for me. ...... been there done that.

The GM numbers will continue to fall. .... people may call the blank lineup lazy but it Is far more logical with gameflow, substitution and results.

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Date: 2/11/2015 2:50:13 PM
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So, put in your lineup but then Let Coach Decide the rest of the way. And if you have a guy listed at backup at more than one position (as for example a guard at PG/SG even SF) (or a big at PF/C) then the same thing can work for you that you didn't like working for the other guy ("if he was a shooting guard you might see him play at the sf position pretty soon").

Like I say, hang in there. Ninety-nine percent of the whining you see on the forums isn't necessary.

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Date: 2/11/2015 3:06:20 PM
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With respect I believe we both can agree that we are not arguing with each other.
What you have suggested is what i do .and had done for over 20 seasons! The backup scenario im used to seeing. ... what i no longer see now are the starters flipping spots to create mismatches.... offensively or defensively.
And again with a completely blank lineup i would see adjustments. ... this is not a knee-jerk reaction here. I watch EVERY game and it is clear to see the difference.
Like most things I'll get over it but from now on my money stays with me.

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Date: 2/11/2015 3:53:43 PM
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I did see that in the press release. . The part when it kicks in... 3 blank slots or more.
Not knowing how the substitutions would work I would have wait for a scrimmage opportunity.
And i actually WANT to make a cup run this year.
Can't sacrifice leauge or cup games to get the answer.

Does anyone have the answer of how the game behaves with 3 starters in and the rest blank?

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Date: 2/11/2015 4:31:42 PM
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Ah!
It pays not to be hostile in the forum indeed.

I will report my findings after the game.

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Date: 2/12/2015 1:21:00 AM
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Whatever you set you will get player with 36+ minutes in games with 30point difference and about 40+ minutes in close games.
I didnt speak up about few NTs that had no chance to try how it works becose they had to compete from first game on while other had time to do so but that is different story. I like those smartasses who has no clue how things used to work and they work now but dont hesitate to tell veterans what they should do. Maybe if they have a player becose of who they sacraficed their own team results for 10 or more seasons and after that time they suddenly find out it is waste of time becose the guy was not HOF and that he cant play in NT game anymore becose he is not starter so now he is 25% short on money, experiences and game fun would change his mind.
Just run through some NT games that are not blowouts and make statistic how many players are involved and check their minutes.

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Date: 2/12/2015 8:58:27 AM
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Not really sure if your criticising me here or if your bust telling how things work. I was just giving advice on things that could work and that he could try in order to maybe get it to work.
For the second part of your post I have no idea at all what your referring to.

First part was reffering to you, you asked about how it works when you set just 3 players.
All other things were posted to everybody.
About that second part, players with MVP and lower potential are hard to train beyond 135 skills becose potential will stop them earlier. According to current system when with good stamina it is well enough to have 3-4 guards, 2 SFs and 3-4PFs in NT it is harder for lower potential players to be involved in NT game. No games no money compensation for NT player (or much lower). Apply the same to experiences and fun (as interes of players manager in NT system).
Until now the NTs could also be known as communities (countries) battle, now it will be battle of managers who lead NT with 2-3 more fellaz as we gonna need less players and only top players. Less managers from community will be involved, so interes in NT will drop worldwide.
But that is all i was talking about in my first post here, not the one before this.
I hope it is more clear now.

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