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From: Adam

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181476.246 in reply to 181476.243
Date: 7/13/2011 7:08:19 AM
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I may be wrong but you seem to be grouping all 4 of "this year's crop" as managers who have bought there way to the ABBL. I'm not going to argue on behlaf of the others, but personally I've never bought a player to get me where I am now, granted I was lucky to get Bogan which is probably why I am here. But I haven't and won't ever buy a player to get me or keep me in the ABBL.

My plan is to "yo yo" between the leagues and looking at my economy page atm I'd say it's reasonably effective to this stage.

I have a training plan and have stuck to it, which has yielded me a couple of young stars which I hope to continue to train in the next few seasons.

Effectively I probably accidently got to the ABBL, but that didn't hinder my plan at all, it helped if anything to gain more $$. I will get to and stay in the ABBL when I feel my team that I have built not bought is ready and that's my plan and has been for a while, so don't say I don't and haven't planned.

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181476.247 in reply to 181476.246
Date: 7/13/2011 7:16:17 AM
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Mate I dont think anyone is putting you in the horrible disgusting sinfull HA stereotyped box

Fancy someone aspiring to be promoted to the best league when he was too inexperienced to know that he wasnt ready or that he didnt have the right plans in place

Last edited by Sid Vicious at 7/13/2011 7:41:12 AM

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181476.248 in reply to 181476.247
Date: 7/13/2011 7:51:06 AM
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haha i am definitely only referring to HA (not sure about out trusty GM though) - and i wouldn't say you're inexperienced - you've been around as long as me.

Also this is all just semantics - if you're having fun and staying active it's all good. Each of us takes something different out of the game and as long as your happy then that's cool i guess. i guess i get frustrated when i hear people talk about the fact that the jump is too hard (mostly Div 2 teams that haven't actually tried it i might add). As i said earlier if you plan well it's easy enough assuming of course you don't get a massive run of injuries to crucial guys and so forth.


Adam am i right in saying you netted 4 mil from the Jone Bogan sale? If so it's completely understandable that you came up quicker than expected and have had a hard time of it. My mate Greeno was in your div 2 the year that happened and you basically ended up with a really well rounded team and got promoted. Probably the fact that your trainees were a year or 2 behind where they would have been if things had gone a bit slower was all that stopped you staying up.

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181476.249 in reply to 181476.248
Date: 7/13/2011 7:57:37 AM
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yes 4 mil.
Yeh and even with that I was lucky to promote.
Potentially but even then I wasn't really planning to stay up at that stage, season 18 or 19 was always going to be around the time in my eyes.

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181476.250 in reply to 181476.245
Date: 7/13/2011 8:17:19 AM
Koopasaurus
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lol no I'm not talking about training players whilst in the abbl.
I don't even think training is relevant in this discussion in the first place since everyone does training..

The point here is promoting too 'early'.. the argument I was trying to get across was already brought up by monkeybiz.. trying to compete in div2 and save money is a pain.. the best I could save was 50k gross a week, if you tanked the abbl you could get 400k gross a week. its a no brainer.

I'm saying there is nothing wrong with promoting too early to get that 1mil promotion money, then tanking the rest of the abbl season... some other people seem to think otherwise.

And like it or not money is a big factor in this game.. look at WA, soon to be 3 abbl titles in a row and look at how jon bogan helped adam guns promote to the abbl too "early", all prime examples of the power of money. Pretty sure WA and adam guns had some kind of plan in process, but the x-factor was the money.

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181476.251 in reply to 181476.250
Date: 7/13/2011 9:13:22 AM
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Exactly right, sorry just took what you said the wrong way :)

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181476.252 in reply to 181476.250
Date: 7/13/2011 10:12:55 AM
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I'm sorry if the relegating managers (Sid and Adam) feel like i'm having a go at them because i wasn't intending to. It's just something that has been discussed lately amongst a few people and i guess when you're an old fart like me in BB terms, you see a lot of ups and downs and see a lot of promoting teams making the same mistakes every season.

The promoting teams are definitely tougher every season though and this is probably the best group we've ever had i'd say.

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181476.253 in reply to 181476.252
Date: 7/13/2011 3:35:03 PM
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My team has the formality of enduring one and hopefully two more lessons from the Doncaster Flames, before technically it can be classified as a relegating team.

How is it that with all this discussion focused of the "sins" of teams that promote too early, that noone has discussed the plight and plans of one of the games most experienced players in Avalon Jets?

In retrospect its not in mine or the Doncaster Flames financial interests for the series to go to a third game



Last edited by Sid Vicious at 7/13/2011 4:00:08 PM

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181476.254 in reply to 181476.253
Date: 7/14/2011 7:14:52 AM
Koopasaurus
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Avanlon Jets? I think he was in rebuilding mode most of the season and with good teams such as kynlala knights and monkeybiz coming thru.. he chose the wrong season to rebuild...

Actually I dont really know, cos I was too busy keeping tabs on canberra crushers.

And yes it would be in your best interest to just lose the second game and call it a day, cut your loses so to speak. Or if you think you have a chance to win in the third game, go for broke and go down swinging..

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181476.255 in reply to 181476.254
Date: 7/16/2011 2:21:01 AM
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Not sure about the Jets. They played virtually the same tactic week in week out. Shepard could have easily won more games.

If you think you have a chance then you might as well go for broke, who knows you might get lucky by injuring a player or two...

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181476.256 in reply to 181476.255
Date: 7/17/2011 8:15:40 PM
Koopasaurus
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He had no chance at all!!
But I guess thats a good thing cos now he does not have to pay player salaries for this week.

@mllama.. how can you lose to coach parrot! tsk tsk tsk. shouldve upped it up. =P

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