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From: BB-Forrest

To: ned
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109686.25 in reply to 109686.24
Date: 9/8/2009 4:18:12 PM
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our aim is to keep inflation down, to keep things in equilibrium. The promotion money is worth less this season that is true, but we have also made fan spirit work in a way that teams that just promoted remember that they just promoted and so more fans will come to see your team even if you are losing cause you just promoted.

i'm not sure if you are criticizing the moves that we did make or simply expressing a generalized fear. I think we share your generalized concern for the gaps remaining the right size. We want them big enough so that teams have incentive to promote but not so big that teams who promote aren't automatically sent back down. I would ask you to think, what percentage of teams that are newly promoted should be demoted the following season? keep in mind that 25% of all teams are demoted every season. That really is the metric which tells us the gaps are too big. Right now I think we are still in a decent range, and we are trying to keep it there. We saw a growing problem with the large arenas making it impossible for newly promoted teams to scale up their arenas fast enough to compete.. so we have fixed that. There will undoubtedly come other changes in market dynamics we haven't anticipated, and we will make changes to address them, but I would hope that it is clear that our concerns are your concerns.

I believe the exact details of what constitutes a prominent domestic player are up to you to discover.

From: ned
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Date: 9/8/2009 4:36:21 PM
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Forrest as usual I like you cause you're the only one that is availabe to discuss with us and I'm sure that talk with 100 people about a trouble is better than talk with only 1 person, so thanks for it.
The problem of the big arena I hope is solved but for sure is not enough; pls check who won our championship, he had the highest salary but he had also the highest income at the end of the week, it means that he will become stronger every week and stronger in this game it means richer. I don't have any solution for that or maybe the only solution is to set free the salary of players like Cardenas hoping that someone of the biggest team (torooo, superfly, boston) will buy him reducing the income due to the big salary of him. But on the other hand having a player like Cardenas in the roster gives them more powerful so the only possibility is that Cardenas on the field doesn't worth 3 times more other centers and thanks to "random" (?) you can hope sometime to win a match against these strong teams.
In any case if I can suggest you a small change in the economy, I will change the fans influence in the economy one time per week and not after one match ;)

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109686.29 in reply to 109686.9
Date: 9/8/2009 11:27:30 PM
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off curse, but imagine if i've 20000 empty bleachers, with this siply multiplication 20000*200= 4000000.

20,000 seats would take way to long. SuperFly is tearing down 3000 seats and said it was going to take 22 days. 20,000 seats would take like 200 days...You also don't get the money until it is completed...Peace

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Date: 9/9/2009 2:46:31 AM
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one arena has to pull down 30k ;)

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109686.31 in reply to 109686.20
Date: 9/9/2009 2:55:57 AM
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How the seats are affected from the cap, or let say it so if we sell 20,100 ticket without the cap which 100 ticket are harder to sell?

Is there are key fpor the distribution? Or a VIP places ever close enough to the field, so that it cost bleachers?

Or is it a formula like that:

(visitors bleachers)/Total visitors * (visitors over the cap) = (Number of bleachers who are harder to sell)

Last edited by CrazyEye at 9/9/2009 2:58:29 AM

From: Ozzy
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Date: 9/9/2009 8:44:59 AM
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I don't know does anybody already asked this question, but one thing looks like very confusing for me.

It says:
We understand it will take some experimenting for teams to become accustomed to this new market, and so until the October 1 ticket price update, we will allow for ticket price changes to take immediate effect

Yesterday I set my new ticket prices, but they didn't change. It will be change next month:

(Current Price: $17) (Price Next Month $16)
(Current Price: $60) (Price Next Month $60)
(Current Price: $180) (Price Next Month $170)
(Current Price: $1400) (Price Next Month $1300)

I try to wait one daily update... but nothing changed.

Is this "price-changing" working, or...I didn't understand Season 10 changes? :)

From: brian

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Date: 9/9/2009 9:56:29 AM
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How the seats are affected from the cap, or let say it so if we sell 20,100 ticket without the cap which 100 ticket are harder to sell?

Is there are key fpor the distribution? Or a VIP places ever close enough to the field, so that it cost bleachers?

Or is it a formula like that:

(visitors bleachers)/Total visitors * (visitors over the cap) = (Number of bleachers who are harder to sell)


Hey Forrest, can you get me a copy of all the formulas for the GE when you get done with CrazyEye's request?

Last edited by brian at 9/9/2009 9:57:17 AM

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From: Kivan

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Date: 9/9/2009 10:03:20 AM
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no
that would give you an unfair advantage ;)

From: /joao
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Date: 9/9/2009 10:57:13 AM
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A request for moderation then:

The season ended early in the month, but thw ticket prices were already settled to setember as a whole, and it's not possible to change it, at least until october.

However, I assume there has been a considerable variaton regarding prices and attendance, especially in upper leagues, and one cannot risk to raise tickets without being sure the promotion will come; and now these teams that did succeed are stuck with ticket prices fair to lower divisions and excluded from the possibility to adjust to the new system.

I'll take myself as the example.

At season 9 I was in Brasil's div.II, and because of the cap that limits attendance in lower divisions, I would never sell out a 15k arena, so in order to expand it and getting things done in case of promotion, I had to get prices lower. But the end of august came, and the playoffs were there, and I have a stupid decision to make:

a. prices up; and in case of a defeat in the finals, I would get screwed since fans would get sh*tty angry with 2 consecutives running up (been there, know how attendance drops in the first games);

b. prices stay even, and in case of promotion I would stay a month with a lower income than I should be getting since prices COULD go up in a upper division (top league teams can sell out 14k arenas with max prices).

Well, I decided for B, and now things are even worse, since the staff annouced fans ARE WILLING to PAY MORE at upper leagues, even more than before.

All that, to end with a considerable, and really simple request.

How about a STARTING SEASON prices set-up?



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