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117988.25 in reply to 117988.24
Date: 11/13/2009 8:32:19 AM
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"Jump Shot: A better shooter will make more shots at all distances."


i can interpret this as it affects shooting frequency. it does not only say they will shoot accurately, it say more. maybe they do not mean it like that but from the games i feel it really effects inside shooting by increasing the number of shots taken as well as the accuracy.

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Date: 11/13/2009 8:41:02 AM
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"Jump Shot: A better shooter will make more shots at all distances."



I know people try to argue that jump shooting is required for inside shots but my belief is that it isn't. I'm more of the belief that there are different types of shots in BB that use different combinations of skills. For example, it was already mentioned by a BB at one point that the primary skill used in a driving shot is driving.

This is how I interpret the quote above: it is only referencing jump shots and outside shots in general. It is also meant to show the difference between the JS skill and the JR skill. So higher jump shooting will increase the chance that you can hit short jump shots. However, if you want to hit the long shots you will still need a certain amount of jump range to go with it.


Last edited by HeadPaperPusher at 11/13/2009 8:41:14 AM

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117988.27 in reply to 117988.26
Date: 11/14/2009 7:54:12 PM
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No way jump shot is needed. I've has my pitiful trainee go for 21 off his strong inside shot.

It's very simple. If you're player has good driving he will be able to take it in, and depending on his inside shot, finish.
If he doesn't, he will settle for jump shots or need to be set up by a teammate.

I know this for sure, I had a PF with strong jump shot and pitiful driving that would shoot about 45%. Most of his shots were from the top of the key because he couldn't drive. And sometimes he'd even get called for offensive fouls.

My current PF dunks the ball frequently, because he's a SF with high driving being trained as a PF. And he is an even better shooter than inside scorer.

Same with my SG.

Jump shot helps to make your player obviously more complete, but is not needed if you for example, have a Shaq like player who is simply unstoppable in the lane.

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117988.28 in reply to 117988.27
Date: 11/19/2009 4:07:20 AM
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Exactly I completely agree amarestars a player who cannot drice will not attempt inside shots unless they are set up there or grap an offensive Board. Shaq is a good example but the best is Ben Wallace he never scored unless he was set up inside and he cannot shoot if his live depended on it.

Also their are guards with great jumpshot ability who don't score on the inside.
eg) Vernon Lenard

Last edited by stevey222 at 11/19/2009 4:07:45 AM

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117988.29 in reply to 117988.13
Date: 11/19/2009 11:26:05 AM
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In my experience driving helps your shooting percentage. The reason why a player with high driving takes more shots is because he is open more often.


yes that is how i understand the rule too. SO when the player has high driving and bad shooting skills, he will miss more and his shooting % will drop...

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117988.30 in reply to 117988.29
Date: 11/19/2009 3:40:09 PM
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normally the number of attembs of this player get reduced, and the complete lineup ahs a weaker shooting percentage because someone didn't use good options to finish a play because of his limited skills.

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117988.31 in reply to 117988.1
Date: 11/19/2009 7:33:26 PM
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I would work on passing so you get less turnovers

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117988.32 in reply to 117988.26
Date: 11/20/2009 2:05:59 PM
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"Jump Shot: A better shooter will make more shots at all distances."



I know people try to argue that jump shooting is required for inside shots but my belief is that it isn't. I'm more of the belief that there are different types of shots in BB that use different combinations of skills. For example, it was already mentioned by a BB at one point that the primary skill used in a driving shot is driving.

This is how I interpret the quote above: it is only referencing jump shots and outside shots in general. It is also meant to show the difference between the JS skill and the JR skill. So higher jump shooting will increase the chance that you can hit short jump shots. However, if you want to hit the long shots you will still need a certain amount of jump range to go with it.


I am leading a German 2nd division and do mainly play LI. Two of my players are the #1&2 in FG%.

#1 is (only) a 50something C but with secondaries (IS 13 JS7).

The #2 has IS/JS 11 and plays PF/SF.

I therefore strongly believe in JS importance.

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117988.33 in reply to 117988.32
Date: 11/20/2009 8:32:42 PM
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IMO, driving is just another way to score.
In total, three ways of scoring --> jump shot, inside shot (including hook shots, dunks), and drives.
Driving is only dependent on driving skill.


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117988.34 in reply to 117988.33
Date: 11/21/2009 3:44:53 AM
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i look driving as creativity. the more you create, you find more ways for plays but finishing them is only possible using passing, handling or shooting. if those are low and cant complement high driving, player ends up with low percentages and turnovers.

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117988.35 in reply to 117988.34
Date: 11/21/2009 4:07:02 AM
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I am making a study with an other friend who is training big men, and usually we both playing an inside tactics. So far our conclusions, comparing how many shots per min a player is getting, the % of shooting, XP/IS/HA/PA/IS/DR/JS, looks like that driving has very little to do with the shooting frequency, or the %. Looks also that XP, is playing great role on %. JS is important too, but that 1 was expected. Passing surprisingly its more important than DR too. Still our data are very few, so i would love to see some more users that are using inside tactics to give some more input.


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