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152222.25 in reply to 152222.7
Date: 9/21/2010 2:32:11 PM
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Silves doesn't really have any relevance to the economy. Basically he is an unaffordable player that will be rented out every couple weeks.


But, see, he does.

Every time he's transferred, the "agent's fees" are removed from the BB economy forever. Not counting his salary, in the past two seasons Silva is responsible for removing over $4.6 million in agent's fees from the BB economy. (Assuming an average salary of ~400k the past 2 seasons, he's removed an additional 11 million, though some of that likely comes back in the way of merch revenue, so you can ignore this parenthetical bit here.) The Polish NT center is in a similar boat, and surely there are a few more that could easily be found on the TL.

I'm pretty sure the designer's are not out of control as well. This is a strategy game and you need to make decisions. To support a player like Silves you are going to need a stockpile of money to run through while he is on the roster. If you are a growing team, it is probably best to train players within your economic means.


I agree with most of this. The undesired side-effect of players like Silva, et. al. is that as long as they're on NTs, they can't be fired. If their salaries force a team into bankruptcy, they wind up as FAs on the TL to remove more $$ from the economy.

Also, as long as players like these reign supreme as the choice for NTs, and as long as having NT players is directly related to merch revenue, there will be BB managers who continue to train giant piles of dung like Silva, and the problem exacerbates itself into a Kleenex forever.

The push to change this situation needs to come from NT managers. Yes, I'm looking at you. You are, after all, the guy who said this:
As the U21 manager, I tell people to train these huge salary bigs. As a friend advising people, I would say to train to your competition and your means and not to the U21 standards. I'd steer all my friends away from training a NT-worthy big.


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152222.27 in reply to 152222.26
Date: 9/21/2010 5:37:09 PM
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Horrible idea. Then every top team will be a composite of legendary skill monsters.

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152222.31 in reply to 152222.30
Date: 9/22/2010 11:21:31 AM
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I think it's good to have a trap like this to weed out the bad managers who buy these type of players. It is a strategy game after all so it should be possible to make mistakes, even catastrophic ones.


That's a fine argument, and I'm not disagreeing with you here. There is a problem though, if you can buy a player like this specifically to win a single Tournament game, and sell him.

Tricking him out for a single game is not only currently possible, but the payment of salaries is such that you could buy a player like this on Tuesday, list him on Wednesday, he plays in your cup match on Thursday, and sells on Saturday without you ever needing to pay his salary.

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152222.32 in reply to 152222.31
Date: 9/22/2010 11:40:47 AM
New York Jests
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But somebody is paying his salary. So it is still a net loss to the economy. Shrewd manager will take this into account when making the transfer and dumb managers will lose their shirts.

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152222.33 in reply to 152222.32
Date: 9/22/2010 1:09:24 PM
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The idiot that buys him on Saturday in the above scenario is the guy who pays his salary. The drain on the economy is pretty limited, as there aren't very many players this ridiculous, and there are still plenty of FAs on the market, so the BBs can't possibly see a problem to the economy from this or any other factor (i.e., more teams investing in scouting this season, etc.).

I think the problem is mostly the Tournament aspect. I suppose a lot more people would feel differently about this subject if it starts happening more often (particularly if these "tricking" expeditions are successful ones).

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152222.34 in reply to 152222.11
Date: 10/14/2010 7:50:34 PM
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Thanks man, I ended up having to sell him and now I'm trying to build a more solid team around his replacements (Erik Kemp is on his way to Bronson-like awesomeness and my new prospect Kristopher Hendricks has the size and potential to become something special too) so I can eventually move up in the divisions. Bronson alone was not enough to win games at DIII, and because of his already astronomical salary, I was never able to build around him. His sale price was very disappointing (5,500,000) but it still bought me a few prospects and some skills in the frontcourt. I should be back in DIII in no time, and in two or three seasons, we'll be hearing the same kind of hype about Kemp.

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152222.35 in reply to 152222.34
Date: 10/14/2010 10:32:40 PM
LionPride
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You are remarkable. That sounds corny, but there is nothing left to say after what you did with Bronson. What level trainer do you use if I may ask?

Last edited by oriolekid at 10/14/2010 10:37:20 PM

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