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180004.25 in reply to 180004.22
Date: 4/13/2011 10:09:50 AM
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Losing is the biggest gaming annoyance and every game day, half of the BB world is pissed off.

You really have to question the BBs sanity to come up with a game like that. The model can't work, there are angrying half of the userbase twice a week. You don't have to be a genius to figure that out. I am pretty sure many users quit when they lose their first games.

I say let us all win all our games since we are here to have fun. At the very least, let the paying supporters win ;D
Lionel Messi choosed football because they have draws and nobody is upset though he doesn't make use of draws very often.

Seriously, nobody likes to have injured players but it's part of a sports management simulation. Now, let's call a spade a spade, it's intolerable for who can't handle to have a plan disrupted and lose. Injuries can happen, accept it and as a real life coach, there is little you can do about it. Having a larger roster or better back-ups is something you'd want to consider to overcome an always possible injury crisis, no matter what, your team will be weaker.
But taking injuries away or halving them again will make BB a worse simulation. Football Manager without injuries ?... Ah ah ah !

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180004.26 in reply to 180004.14
Date: 4/13/2011 10:17:34 AM
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But what is fun for you ? How can't you have fun being the team you are and having tons of successes ?

Would conquering the world satisfy you ? ;)

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180004.27 in reply to 180004.22
Date: 4/13/2011 11:06:14 AM
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Not saying i like when my players get hurt but its a fact that when you play a physical sport injury's do occur.


What you say is true, but at the same time we play this game for fun and thus annoyances should be well dosed so nobody gets pissed off and leaves. I know several managers in this game that had two or even three key players injured at the same time (one of them had three players for 2 weeks out) and that should simply not happen - the damage done to a team is too much (gameshape plummets too).

Make small injuries more frequent - like I said for only one game or so and remove everything over one week, that way everybody will get his fair share of injuries but nobody will be harmed too badly.



Agreed.



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180004.28 in reply to 180004.25
Date: 4/13/2011 11:20:19 AM
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But taking injuries away or halving them again will make BB a worse simulation. Football Manager without injuries ?... Ah ah ah !



BB is not real life.
In real life you don't need to train your SF as PG/C until he is 26 years old. It's OK here, because it's a game, a challenging and complex game indeed.
In real life if you are the manager of LA Lakers and Kobe and Gasol get injured and can't make to the playoffs it is too bad, the Lakers will lose, that's bad but your life as a manager continues, you have your family, your friends, you go to a party and so on.
Here in BB your players are your life. Without your players you are anything. There's nothing else you can do. If you take your players away from the managers you kill the fun. Create other challenges, make the game even more complex and difficult, but let the players play.
In BB things happen very slowly. One week is a lot of time. Taking away a player for 2, 3, 4 weeks is an eternity for a manager. It is different from real life. And also different from most sports managers, specially those which are not online and let you choose the pace of playing.
One good suggestion is to let in-game injuries happen more frequently and diminish drastically the ocurrence of long term injuries. That would force managers to hire more effective backups and create more balanced rosters.

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180004.29 in reply to 180004.28
Date: 4/13/2011 12:58:42 PM
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BB is not real life, it isn't completely realistic and I don't want it to be. It's a game. And it's a simulation too, the game simulates real life, injuries happen in real life. I don't get your line of thinking. Because training isn't realistic, injuries should be taken out ?

Phil Jackson can get over it because he has more important things in life like family and friends but a BB manager can't ?
I am sure you don't mean that and you are simply pushing your point a bit over the limit.

BB is faster than real life, that you find it fast or slow is all very relative, that you find 2 weeks an eternity is relative, if injuries durations were mostly in a 6-8 games span in BB, you'd find a 2 weeks injury to be a relief. Injuries in BB do generally less harm than in real life where players can be out for months and never recover their full skills. Over 2 weeks injuries are rare. Injuries in BB are already friendly to gamers, they are not realistic, they are already toned down to suit a light simulation.

I don't believe your last suggestion would satisfy you, the exact same arguments you are using against injuries as how they are handled now are not answered. You can't control it, it's not fun, no challenge. What's the difference apart from your level of acceptance ?

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180004.30 in reply to 180004.29
Date: 4/13/2011 1:13:00 PM
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I am sure you don't mean that and you are simply pushing your point a bit over the limit.



Probably I'm pushing my point a bit over the limit.That's true.

But I think that if injuries didn't exist in BB nobody would open a new thread complaining about it.
Like: "Damn, I've done everything right, my team is really strong, I need some injuries in my key players in order to lose in the playoff finals, injuries happen in real life, why the hell they don't exist here??".
But a claim like the following could appear: "Damn, my team is inferior and I need to win next game, why there are no injuries in this game?? I really need that my opponent's key players get injured in order to give me some chance to beat him!!".



Last edited by LA-Bernspin at 4/13/2011 1:13:41 PM

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180004.31 in reply to 180004.30
Date: 4/13/2011 1:24:20 PM
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But I think that if injuries didn't exist in BB nobody would open a new thread complaining about it.


:)

I really wish you to enjoy the game better and have more fun.
No offence intended from me, I wish you the best of luck.

This is my last post in the thread and here are my last words :

If BB ddin't exist, nobody would make suggestions about it :)

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180004.32 in reply to 180004.29
Date: 4/13/2011 1:26:27 PM
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From: iwen
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180004.33 in reply to 180004.29
Date: 4/15/2011 6:02:30 PM
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Why not adjust the injury system to still allow players to play, but limit their effectiveness?

Why not have injuries such as...

Bruised Elbow (1 week duration) - Reduces FT / JS / IS by 2 ie. Wondrous JS becomes Sensational for the week.
Broken Finger (2 week duration) - Reduces JS / JR / IS by 4
Concussion (1 week duration) - Reduces OD / ID / RB by 2

And many other random possibilities..

At least that way.. our players may still play, but their effectiveness will be limited.

From: CrazyEye

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180004.34 in reply to 180004.33
Date: 4/16/2011 2:22:01 AM
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could be a nice addition, but i still want injuries where you had to sit at home.

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180004.35 in reply to 180004.34
Date: 6/5/2011 9:03:59 AM
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Im definitely one for injuries.. being a inferior side, i need all the luck i can get to win. a win is a win, its satisfying.

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