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I agree...The guy I will be playing in the cup final( if I win tonight) added 600K in salary since the round of 16....I think the last 4 rounds( sweet 16 to the final) should have a buying freeze...

In NBA, 10-day contracts are also only available after January 5 of each season. So if the lakers fired Kobe now, teams would only be able to hire him for 10 day contacts after that point.

10 day contracts also have the clause, that, once you sign someone to two 10 day contracts, you can only retain them again by signing them for the remainder of the season.
The difference being, that the NBA does not have a side-running competion that finishes mid-season. otherwise i think their rules would be different. Im not sure about other basketball leagues, but we dont have a parralell running competition for our basketball league here.
So its not really fair to compare this scenario to NBA and 10 day contracts.
The new rules this season which mean that a player will get paid at least one weeks wages before being sold will also slowly weed out the kind of 'buy-then-sell' tactics of teams. or at least make them slightly harder to implement.

I agree...The guy I will be playing in the cup final( if I win tonight) added 600K in salary since the round of 16....I think the last 4 rounds( sweet 16 to the final) should have a buying freeze...

The cup is completely random - as someone recently posted, we could've met in the 1st round... we didn't..... I could've had a home match in the cup this season.... I didn't.

Each given week you have a number of variables. Gameshape, enthusiasm and injuries. You then have your games - league and possibly cup and bb3 - you then have your bank account.

Once you've decided what you want to achieve from your week, you then 'MANAGE' your team to try and hit your goals. Achieving these might mean dipping into your bank account, overplaying a key player, agreeing a mutual TIE (still the most ridiculous part of the game exists - not mutual TIE - just enthusiasm).... if your bank account doesn't allow you at your current point in time to be as flexible, you need to manage your expectations of the week better.

ie. Don't think you will win the cup final :D

ie. Don't think you will win the cup final

Yeah...I know...the cup final was weeks ago...thanks for the bad memory.....But hey..If they have a buying freeze for the playoffs and the BB3..why not for the cup? Just saying...without that beast you bought I would have won by 5....
BTW..When do I get my 2nd place trophy?

i think you got lucky that my rent a beast didn't get any improvement in his GS......

i know a little off topic but the games flaws now are widening and not narrowing. This has all stemmed from the fact that BB's wanted to have each country grow independently of one another. We have fought in japan to get more numbers and it just isn't happening despite the translation. We have gone too far now to repair any of the major disparities and the only way to do this would be a complete reset of the game/players and start everyone out on a level playing field.

So, right now, the hardcore players will play in the belief that things will change for the better where in reality the teams that are in smaller user bases will have the luxury of tanking/hoarding and generally upsetting the equilibrium of the divisions and cups they are in.

There is deadline for the playoffs and now the BB3 but why not the cup? This is the second time in two seasons that I will probably lose to Sharman because he bought two new beast for the cup semi's. Why not have a deadline for the cup like no new players can play if they are purchased after the round of 16..are even freeze it before the round of 32.....It sucks to have to play a team with a 1.45 milllion weekly salaries...What does everyone think?

It happens in other sports too, MLB probably being the most prominent. To me it just sounds like you're bitter that your opponent had the resources/desire to improve his team whereas you did not.


In regards to subsequent comments, this happens all the time in the NBA. Every year before the trade deadline, ESPN.com is blowing with rumors of who will go where, etc. There arent as many big deals nowadays because teams are mainly just trying to deal expiring contracts for cap purposes but deals do happen. The issue is that the NBA does have a trading deadline which ends significantly before the end of the season, otherwise teams probably would make trades for ridiculous players during the playoffs (imagine if the Lakers had the resources to trade for Lebron James just for the NBA finals... he'd still become a FA afterwards and the Cavs could have gotten something for the rental).

You can't use the NBA trade deadline and compare it to what I was saying. The trade deadline is two months before the playoffs. I am talking about a manager who bought a player on Monday and won the semi's on Tuesday and then the Final on Thursday and sold the player the next week. Yes, he had to pay the salary but he won 450K from cup earnings. If there were a freeze in place he would have to have bought that guy two weeks before and that would mean he would have had to pay that players salary for 3 weeks.
BTW...And your example is MLB. You can't buy a player before the World Series starts...so NO! It's nothing like MLB or NBA..Soccer even has transfer windows. In no sport can you buy a player a week before the playoffs start and then use him in the playoffs..

To me it just sounds like you're bitter that your opponent had the resources/desire to improve his team whereas you did not.

If you would look at the JBBL standings you will see I am ahead of this team and I didn't need to add a player to beat him..Two injuries cost me the cup....So no..I'm not bitter...What sucks in my eyes is that they(BB'S) fixed this problem in the BB3 tournament( how many teams does that effect) before the Country Cup( which effects way more teams)... Let's see if they do anything about it for next season..

Last edited by Yellow cake at 6/20/2011 7:29:14 AM

I think that if you do read the OP's post he has a pretty good argument for why this change should be a good one. They have a rule so that you cant "buy" the league playoffs that lead to the B3 or in lower leagues promotion. And in the B3 to make buying a title much harder. But no such rule apply to the tournament so anyone can freely buy that trophy if they want. And i do like the idea to have to sacrifice something to win in the other. It gives room for good tacticians to shine a bit more then those that just play their 5 best every game.

I don't like the idea. I don't think it is currently unfair at all. People seem to be complaining that their opponents can buy great players before the match, but there is absolutely nothing stopping you from doing exactly the same. Neither team is at a disadvantage. In fact, having this allowed makes the game more interesting as you never know the lineup until just before the game, also, it means that saving up money is important because it allows you to do this.

If this suggestion gets implemented, then I wouldn't be surprised if people start suggesting that the teams should be locked in from the very first league game because "it's unfair that I am in fourth place and the guy in fifth place just bought lots of high salary players and is going to overtake me". It's just whining at the end of the day.

Under the current rules, the playing field is equal, and there is no reason it should be changed as it isn't currently unfair. The only argument someone could present in support of this idea is the realism factor, but that isn't an overly strong argument as there are 10 day contracts for the NBA for players not part of a team.

Neither team is at a disadvantage in the league finals, but we can't buy players right before the finals. Its an even competition against teams with equal financial situations, but we still cant do it. They should freeze the final 16 games for cup players.

They should freeze the final 16 games for cup players.

I don't agree, because two the best teams in country can meet in first or in last round. And it will be crazy if in first case they can buy players and in second case they can't. It isn't equal situation. So transfers should be freezed for all rounds or for none. And because 2nd option is stupid so 1st is the best ;-)

They should freeze the final 16 games for cup players.

I don't agree, because two the best teams in country can meet in first or in last round. And it will be crazy if in first case they can buy players and in second case they can't. It isn't equal situation. So transfers should be freezed for all rounds or for none. And because 2nd option is stupid so 1st is the best ;-)

What are the odds that 2 DI teams meet in the first round? Based on the USA tournament (I know other ones will have a better chance). 1.4%. (mathematical probability). That means that in 50 seasons that there is a 50% chance that there will ever be 2 D1 teams that meet in the first round. So we are talking about a situation that will almost never happen.

Last edited by Northern Ninja at 6/20/2011 11:01:49 PM

I don't agree, because two the best teams in country can meet in first or in last round. And it will be crazy if in first case they can buy players and in second case they can't. It isn't equal situation.

How can you compare a game for 50K and a game for 300K? The last time I checked, 300K was a lot more. Freeze for the 16 is the best idea( oh!!That is my idea). I saw one other idea that would have it go to brackets from the round of 32( the top ranked team left in the cup playing the worst,the 32seed, the 2nd playing the 31 and so on) and freezing new player buys before that just like the BB3....either one would be cool with me but fix it please...

Last edited by Yellow cake at 6/21/2011 1:26:36 AM