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the thread title is the ideal height for the SF

And my opinion is that ideal height for SF is 175cm ;-) And I present my arguments ;-)

not the ideal SF height for DV.

These two things are connected because most teams in this game are in lower divisions ;-)
So 175cm is ideal height for ~80%, maybe 90% managers.
And I'm aware that ideal height for SF playing in NT or in 1st division is different.

You received team practically in 1st division so You don't know realities in lower divisions too ;-)

i mentored several teams in bottom division, and when i start first division had lot of lower division mechanics. Ok maybe our player was worse then the players, a normal starting team should buy nowadays.

You're right, SF must be trained out of position. And therefore you need better team than opponents.It isn't easy because currently in 5th division in first season you must fight against teams which played in BB 2-3 seasons.

a player with very balanced skills isn't a weak spot in a beginners team, maybe not the goto guy but a player you could easily integrate.
Also if you play against much stronger teams, you had the chanche to sacrifice especially the away games to training, and you haven't to much better to integrate weaker players at home games too, in lower devision while a weak player in high devision needs a much more advanced roster(and in this case you should ask you why you not already playing at a higher level when you could play then constantly, or when you at top level you should ask you why you pay 200-400k extra salar to be able to train one player)

edit: and the importance of an SF is the same in top and bottom leagues, and yes you can afford to play without one, but having one is also an big advantage.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 7/11/2011 8:45:11 AM

I'm planning to train a SF from next season on. I have a 19yo U21 prospect who I have to train two more seasons in outside skills, so my future SF will receive also that training. I'd rather have a bit higher player with good outside skills (OD and JR at least 6 and PA at least 4 - JS, DR and HA are not that important for now because I will do a lot of 1 on 1 training for SF/PF) and decent inside skills (RE and ID 7).

After two seasons when my U21 player reaches 22 years, I will start in inside skills. After four seasons of training (two seasons: outside skills, two seasons: inside skills) I hope I will get the SF to start in DII where I plan to be from next season.

I'd recommend to anyone who trains SF to start with OD first, so your trainee fouls out less. Plus OD is slow to train and it's best to start early.