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From: BFiddy

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Date: 7/26/2011 12:12:35 PM
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FC...stop trolling him.

Buckeyefan01...you're not going to get elected, tho I hope you will take this opportunity/interest and join the offsite forum to get involved in the NT. If you want to be NT coach in the future, you need to invest time in the community that might one day elect you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
From: AZ

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Date: 7/26/2011 12:32:07 PM
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How can you be "Real Good" and "Average" at the same time?

From: FatCurry

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Date: 7/26/2011 12:45:36 PM
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I've only got warmed up this election.

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Date: 7/26/2011 12:46:55 PM
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And yes we will get revenge on the dang polish!

I think it is very very very bad plan :/
I will not vote for You ;-)

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Date: 7/26/2011 12:49:19 PM
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Go eat more kielbasa and get off our forum.

Last edited by FatCurry at 7/26/2011 12:49:34 PM

From: Harper
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Date: 7/26/2011 1:04:21 PM
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What would you have done over the past two seasons that you feel would have been better than Jfarb?


Can we get back to these types of questions? As a voter what I care about is how the next NT manager is going to improve the team and continue the success, not what division the said manager is in. As a voter, I want to see a well thought out and detailed argument about why each candidate thinks he or she should be elected. Without any arguments or plans the only other way I would have to judge a manager is through his personal teams success. So if you want me to consider you and you aren't in the top divisions, tell me your plans and show me why I should vote for you.

From: Jason

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Date: 7/26/2011 1:09:30 PM
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The only people elected to be national team manager is the above average and i think it is time for change.


Preach on, brother. By definition, only half of the managers can be in the top half of managers. There's no shame in being one of the ones that makes a top half possible.

On this platform of change, are you willing to commit to a strategy of playing only 3 roster players and lucky fans for the other two? That'll make us impossible to predict, since nobody will be able to calculate the skills of our lucky fans. Down with look inside, up with look to the bleachers!


Whille I agree that a person should not be elected solely based on how high they moved up in the divisions...anyone running should be able to demonstrate that they understand everything pertaining to running a team, and not have glaring weaknesses in their own personal team.

From: Jason

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Date: 7/26/2011 1:11:40 PM
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I've only got warmed up this election.


Great! Something to look forward to! Please keep me out of your cross hairs :-)

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Date: 7/26/2011 1:18:45 PM
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If I get elected I want ot keep getting more support. SpF has done a great job and I want support to grow high. This will help our future because managers would want to help their country and try to get a player on the NT. I rather not share my tactics specifically because it would be a very long message, but I think that my tactics will make our team have better results in the continental and world championship.

From: FatCurry

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191253.34 in reply to 191253.32
Date: 7/26/2011 1:19:03 PM
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I was waiting for you to show up.


1) Jfarb used a 2-3 very successfully versus Italy this year. Do you think that was a one time fluke or do you think 2-3 can be a viable defense in certain situations at the NT level.

2) What do you think Jfarbs greatest accomplishments and failures were in his tenure.

3) Most importantly what do you think about edju

From: GM-hrudey

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Date: 7/26/2011 1:30:50 PM
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The only people elected to be national team manager is the above average and i think it is time for change.


Preach on, brother. By definition, only half of the managers can be in the top half of managers. There's no shame in being one of the ones that makes a top half possible.

On this platform of change, are you willing to commit to a strategy of playing only 3 roster players and lucky fans for the other two? That'll make us impossible to predict, since nobody will be able to calculate the skills of our lucky fans. Down with look inside, up with look to the bleachers!


Whille I agree that a person should not be elected solely based on how high they moved up in the divisions...anyone running should be able to demonstrate that they understand everything pertaining to running a team, and not have glaring weaknesses in their own personal team.


How dare you respond to that with what appears to be a reasonable post?

I have to agree with you for the most part. Progress up the league structure is something that is a function of both time and managerial aptitude, with some luck involved as well. (Well, time is less a factor for some, who find a way to go up from 4 to 2 in two seasons, but I digress). A team that built up a huge wad of cash and VSed their way up against woefully undermatched competition, for example, might not be an ideal choice. A team that's moved up with a flexible and relatively equal squad against similar or better competition, on the other hand, has something voters can look at as being a great qualification for the job.

Lower level teams don't have the track record to rely on, so you're right that they need to demonstrate that they understand the game. I am not sure that the "glaring weaknesses" in the personal team is as much an issue if they understand what the weaknesses are and explain why they're doing that. But there's a definite standard of knowledge that has to be demonstrated, and if their club doesn't do that, they'd better be able to do so in some other way, ideally starting with volunteering with the NT/U21.

Mostly, I just get a kick out of the idea that change for change's sake is the answer to every problem. I haven't seen nearly as many elections here as other games, but it's a recurring theme -- lower level managers saying that they'll achieve success via change and that electing higher-level managers has failed so it's time to try something new. Nothing wrong with that platform if they can back it up, of course, but ... yeah. ;)

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