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He's a decent trainee, but don't buy 18y olds now as they will turn 19 in few weeks. Wait until the draft. Oh, and don't pay attention to estimated prices, they are wrong most of the time.

Ok, I did not see the first one is only starter potential which is pretty bad. You overpaid for him, and the other 18y old is not good enough. He has decent guard skills, but he's 6'11 which means he cannot be trained as a guard. He cannot be trained as a center either because he's got awful inside skills. All in all, I wouldn't train any of the guys you bought. Except for the first one (Starter potential): train him for few weeks and then try to sell him to get some money back, if you can.

Btw, this is the worst possible period for buying 18y olds: Those that are properly trained are expensive, and those who are cheap are usually not trained at all and lost one season of training.

Patience is the most important thing in this game. If you buy and sell by impulse, it will bite you back fast. If you don't have at least a mid-term plan (1-2 seasons in advance), you will find yourself asking after two seasons things like "Why didn't I buy a higher potential" or "Why didn't I add a trainee here two seasons ago". Do you want to train next season and not promote? Then don't buy players with high salary, because you don't need them.

Wait until after the draft. In that period there is a lot of rookies on transfter list, so P.Allstar potential is very cheap to find. But don't jump to first one you see; choose 10-15 rookies you like (bid 1.000 each one of them or bookmark them) and you will be able to get one or two for very cheap.

I'll get back to the team I'm mentoring again: Manager bought this player (23055333) for 1k. If he didn't train Stamina so much, he'd been a candidate for Polish U21 NT now. Maybe he could enter his U21 in the middle of next season if trained conservatively, but he's being trained very uniqely, so he won't make it.

EDIT: One more thing I didn't think of, because it seems "natural" to me now: Both trainees should share the position. So buy either two guards or two inside players. In your place I'd buy two guards.

If you buy guards, shoot for:

P.Allstar potential
6'4" or less
Sum of six guard skills at least 25-30 (JS, JR, OD, HA, DR and PA)

If you buy inside players, go for:

P.Allstar Potential
6'10" or more
Sum of four inside skills at least 20-22 (IS, ID, RB and SB)
Guard skills shouldn't be all at Atrocious - HA should be at least 3; other guard skills above 1 is a bonus (PA being most important after HA).

Last edited by Koperboy at 8/7/2012 3:55:58 AM

adding to what koperboy said, make sure they have good OD to start with (if guard: 6 or 7 is a good start) and if you want a pure PG then 6/7 PA would be great for a start. If you want a big, then something like this will be good:

IS: 5-7
ID: 6-7
REB: 4-5 (it raises salary)
SB: 5+ ( I like SB)

and if you look t the height here is my criteria for positions and height

PG: 6'1'' and lower, the smaller the better
SG: 6'2''-6'4'' want them to score, that's why it's shooting guard
SF: (out-side oriented) 6'5''-6'6'' (if you want an outside SF with some good-decent inside skills, this height is the way to go.
SF: (inside oriented) 6'7''-6'8'' if you want a post player that can go inside, but have decent outside skills, like let's sa 10-11 OD then here is the right place.
PF: 6'8''-6'11'' tall guys but I've seen PFs have a little JS/OD on them, but not like a SF, more like 8-10 JS and 8 OD is a PF with about p. allstar po. as an average.
C: 6'10''+ the taller the better+faster inside skills will pop.


well this is mycriteria when looking to buy a trainee (in the future)

if a BIG: I'm training 2 bigs right now, but IF I want a third one then I like to see my fav skills around 6-7. if you want a guy who actually has nice secondaries (like me I like HA, PA, DR, and OD on my bigs a lil) then go for him. If he has good potential but cheap, go for him. I literally stole a superstar trainee for 50k when he's supposed to go for at least 150k. right now if I ever wanted to sell him he would go for 350-400k.

if a guard: almost same criteria, but have a little preferance. Guards tend to have some weak links sometimes, like I've seen some guards when I cruise around the TL with an atrocious in something. only skill I think you want atrocious on a rookie guard is JR. You want a guard that'll do good in your future. I've heard that some people love to train guards cause a lot of them keep them, and guards these days don't come cheap......let me explain....

In this game, it has become a BIG league where bigs control the game, making LI pretty popular, and no tactic can stop it. with those guards if you even want an oldie, they go for 300+k on the TL. I was lucky to even find catandil for 150k....so train guards is my advice.....anywyas sorry for the long post but hope this helps

No problem if you wanted to make a bit of profit off of him, that's always a good thing. You have to decide though if you want to train for profit or for your team.

Until end of next season, try to upgrade your arena to at least 6.5-7k seats, of those mostly bleachers.

Last edited by Koperboy at 8/7/2012 4:58:34 AM

PG: 6'1'' and lower, the smaller the better
SG: 6'2''-6'4'' want them to score, that's why it's shooting guard
SF: (out-side oriented) 6'5''-6'6'' (if you want an outside SF with some good-decent inside skills, this height is the way to go.
SF: (inside oriented) 6'7''-6'8'' if you want a post player that can go inside, but have decent outside skills, like let's sa 10-11 OD then here is the right place.
PF: 6'8''-6'11'' tall guys but I've seen PFs have a little JS/OD on them, but not like a SF, more like 8-10 JS and 8 OD is a PF with about p. allstar po. as an average.
C: 6'10''+ the taller the better+faster inside skills will pop.

I think you're overthinking yourself here. Basically, if a player is only ever going to be trained in outside skills, you want him as short as possible (and probably 6'4 or 6'5 as a maximum height). If he's only ever going to be trained in inside skills, you want him as tall as possible (maybe 6'8 or 6'9 minimum height, and hopefully he's already got decent handling/passing/OD). If he's going to be trained in both, you want a medium height guy if you're training both relatively equally, with maybe some adjustment taller or shorter if you're focusing more on one type of training.

But the whole 6'2-6'4 for SGs, no, not so much. If you took a 6'4 guy and his 6'0 clone, trained them both identically as a shooting guard, the 6'0 guy would end up better.

But the whole 6'2-6'4 for SGs, no, not so much. If you took a 6'4 guy and his 6'0 clone, trained them both identically as a shooting guard, the 6'0 guy would end up better.

That's true, but somebody would maybe train a bit of IS and ID on his SG and 6'4 is better than 6'0...if however you are sure you won't have any interior training for your SG, then of course the shorter, the better.

But the whole 6'2-6'4 for SGs, no, not so much. If you took a 6'4 guy and his 6'0 clone, trained them both identically as a shooting guard, the 6'0 guy would end up better.

That's true, but somebody would maybe train a bit of IS and ID on his SG and 6'4 is better than 6'0...if however you are sure you won't have any interior training for your SG, then of course the shorter, the better.

Exactly, although even then in that scenario I suppose one would need to calculate how much inside training they'll be doing and how the height difference will slow down the outside training. Or better yet, just have the guys wear platform shoes when training inside.

Good work. Just be sure that if you promote, you invest most of all of promotion bonus (200k) into Arena and also up ticket prices (bleachers 15).

Last edited by Koperboy at 8/8/2012 2:25:43 AM