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I just looked at my league and NBA stats. Here is what I found.

Best Team in my league FT%: 0.842
Best Team in NBA this season so far: 0.826

Worst Team in my league: 0.669
Worst Team in NBA: 0.669

12 of 16 Teams are in a range 0.700 - 0.800 in my League
25 of 30 Teams are in the same range in NBA.

Free-Throws are fine in this game. And so realistic as you see.


Btw, one thing to think about...

Best Team in our league in 3Pts%: 0.258
Worst Team in NBA: 0.301

Ok, it might be, we just dont have right players in our league. But still. Then average is below 20%, something is really wrong with it.

This game hates three pointers and if you actually build a team designed to be outside based then unlike the 2/3 zone which does nothing, the 3/2 zone really hurts your three point percentage even more.

First off chilllllllll. Every skill has secondary skills it trains. In reality if you are a BAMF at JS then more than likely you dont suck at free throws. So why do players with a high skill set of JS and IS can literally blow at FT. This game should and is pretty realistic.

I am "chill", thank you very much. lol
Training in this game is completely unrealistic. And for a good reason - to add a strategy element to it. This proposal removes strategy from the game, and therefore I find it to be a negative for the game. And since it has basically been proposed regularly for 4 years, I'm going to guess the BBs may feel similarly.

That's why we should strive to make those changes so that BB reflects real life basketball as much as it can. Yes? ;)

And to do that, my non-serious proposal of forcing everyone to train free-throws once every season is actually much more realistic than this proposal. But you shot that down, didn't you? lol.
There is no need for this proposal. There has been no need for this proposal, which is probably why despite it being made very frequently and being extremely easy to implement, it has never been implemented.
We already have the silly cross-training effect, implemented to deal with the completely non-realistic approach to training taken by most managers. The game is dominated by min-maxers (which is to be expected with any game) who really aren't interested in "real" basketball as much as they are at "winning" regardless of how unrealistic their players' skills are, their own training program is, their tactical choices, and so on. The current training of FTs at least requires such people to at least suffer a little bit for their refusal to train free throws. This proposal simply reduces that penalty and further encourages everyone to not train FT directly. Which is why I feel it is a bad idea for the game.

Good idea for comparison. Turns out, it's not that unrealistic.

There are many examples of good free throw shooters, who are bad jump shooters. And vice versa. For example, Pekovic is probably the worst jump shooter in the NBA LOL he almost never shoots outside of the paint. Yet, he's extremely reliable FT shooter. On the other hand, a super talented shooter like Shved, misses them quite often. Not to mention JJ Barea and his 65%. Derrick Williams was also painful to watch at the line.

Anyway, I do agree that a slight increase of FT from JS training would contribute to the realism of the game. But as I said, I prefer the current system, where if you want maximum training for your players, you have to sacrifice ST and FT training.

First off chilllllllll. Every skill has secondary skills it trains. In reality if you are a BAMF at JS then more than likely you dont suck at free throws. So why do players with a high skill set of JS and IS can literally blow at FT. This game should and is pretty realistic.

You are quite a lot of fun, I would say:) No one is "unchilled". This is really an interesting way to promote your idea, saying that the other party is trying to virtually snap at you and continuing with your idea regardless of their opinion. However...

On-topic: He was right, you have the FT training, so use it. You don't want to? then why complain. Of course it would make sense to make JS and FT correlated, however right now FT is team-training, which means it's really really worth it. If you played this game long enough, you would see that after 4-5-6 seasons of training and let's say 10-12 weeks of FT training you had quite a lot of good FT shooters on your team. Considering you are not a day-trader and you have a core group of players.

Good post.

Yeah, I'm not asking for a lot here. Some FT training when you train JS or even IS. Something small. Every 5 JS or IS pops gives a FT pop or something.

Oh, well if you're not asking for a long, it's already been implemented:


Date Training Summary
12/20/2013 Jump Shot for Wingmen
Merlin Blankenship ↑popped↑ in Jump Shot from tremendous to wondrous .
Merlin Blankenship ↑popped↑ in Free Throw from inept to mediocre .

Voila! FT was trained with JS.

[seriously though, there's less correlation between FT% and FG% than most people think, and anyway, I don't take realism to be the overriding criterion when it comes to game design choices]

Thanks and good point. I'm just not sure if I want to "waste" a week of training on some young guns when I could train skill points. FT trains the same with any trainer and any age and I don't plan on having a team of old guys, so when would be best to train FT or even stamina? Even weeks like the All Star week I can still get my trainees valuable minutes.

On top of that I want a trainee of mine, Vest, to make the US U21 NT for S27. Seems like I would hurt his chances training FT's, even for a week.

I just don't see why team training stats aren't used as secondary skills in regards to pops. For example nothing would train passing other than passing, and I get that. But, JS should have some affect on FT's, even if it is small.

I don't know, I thought more people would agree.

Wow, I wonder how much JS would it take to have a FT pop. Seems like a lot. Pretty cool... Thanks for sharing.