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272768.25 in reply to 272768.24
Date: 8/21/2015 6:37:14 PM
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I pulled the same revenues even with bad results. Here is history for the last season, prices were the same as now.

5/19/2015 League Game against Partizan 2011 $ 498 474
5/21/2015 National Tournament Game against Next Igalo $ 60 000
5/26/2015 League Game (Televised) against KK Budućnost $ 505 440
5/28/2015 National Tournament Game against KK Crvena Zvezda135 $ 70 000
6/2/2015 League Game against MrRushtu Celtics $ 495 976
6/4/2015 National Tournament Game against KK Real Madrid121 $ 80 000
6/9/2015 League Game against partizan zb $ 501 964
6/11/2015 National Tournament Game against MrRushtu Celtics $ 100 000
6/20/2015 League Game against MARITIMO Herceg Novi $ 505 188
6/27/2015 League Game (Televised) against K.K Pivljani $ 497 034
7/4/2015 League Game against Igalo ÄŒagalj $ 505 342
7/11/2015 League Game against kk dusanja $ 501 070
7/18/2015 League Game against Montenegro Stars $ 505 202
7/21/2015 League Playoff Game against Gomilandor Bastards $ 272 190
8/8/2015 League Game against kk dusanja $ 504 622
8/13/2015 National Tournament Game against Troublemakers Risan $ 50 000
8/15/2015 League Game against KK ZONG $ 505 384
8/20/2015 National Tournament Game against будвани $ 50 000

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272768.26 in reply to 272768.25
Date: 8/21/2015 7:03:15 PM
Fab Five
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I had bad results last season and your revenues are much better. I went down to 427k at one point. I remember having a smaller drop in revenue with the better PR when I was in III division. This reinforces the idea about his influence been more important when you are not doing so well.

19/05/2015 Partido de Liga vs. airsjordans $ 524 685
21/05/2015 Partido de Copa vs. Dracs $ 50 000
28/05/2015 Partido de Copa vs. Team Las Vegas $ 50 000
30/05/2015 Partido de Liga vs. GMA Team $ 427 876
04/06/2015 Partido de Copa vs. cb moncholis $ 50 000
06/06/2015 Partido de Liga vs. Juanito Caminante $ 473 743
13/06/2015 Partido de Liga vs. Almorrana Revenge $ 481 700
23/06/2015 Partido de Liga vs. Valencia Bàsquet $ 491 450
27/06/2015 Partido de Liga vs. NoAguantoLaJuerga $ 462 405
04/07/2015 Partido de Liga Televisado vs. arrano $ 442 968
11/07/2015 Partido de Liga vs. CEI TOLEDO $ 503 879
18/07/2015 Partido de Liga vs. Estudiabaantes $ 494 624
08/08/2015 Partido de Liga vs. Lugo warriors $ 503 956
13/08/2015 Partido de Copa vs. sexinton city $ 50 000
15/08/2015 Partido de Liga vs. Folgado Lakers $ 506 187
20/08/2015 Partido de Copa vs. unicaja baloncesto malaga $ 50 000

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272768.27 in reply to 272768.21
Date: 8/21/2015 9:45:34 PM
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It would be kind of stupid to have a 45k arena, and it's half empty every game :)

I agree. And yet "build your arena as much as you can as fast as you can" is frequently suggested by even guys who seem in other ways to know this game.

For example, here's a fallacy recently posted above: "Ultimately having more seats can never hurt you more than the cost of building them." That is totally false, of course. What really hurts you is that your money could have been working for you instead of being thrown away on empty seats. Your money not working for you is the biggest waste of all.

Last edited by Mike Franks at 8/21/2015 9:49:38 PM

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272768.28 in reply to 272768.27
Date: 8/21/2015 11:04:22 PM
Arizona Desert Storm
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For example, here's a fallacy recently posted above: "Ultimately having more seats can never hurt you more than the cost of building them." That is totally false, of course. .


It's not totally false....Do you need a 20K seat arena if you are laboring in DIV? Of course not...but at the same you always want to have your Arena at least one division ahead of where you are because when you promote, you want those seats already in place to take advantage of the promotion bonus or you will be chasing dollars you'll never get back.

I started playing this game around the same time as a bunch of friends, and obviously, after the guy who got me into the game...I was more aggressive building my arena than they were, and I have also had more success than they have. Not that building seats is the secret to success, but when you are earning a significant amount of money more than your league mates because of your arena, it definitely gives you strong advantages.

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272768.29 in reply to 272768.28
Date: 8/22/2015 1:52:34 AM
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For example, here's a fallacy recently posted above: "Ultimately having more seats can never hurt you more than the cost of building them." That is totally false, of course. .
It's not totally false....Do you need a 20K seat arena if you are laboring in DIV? Of course not...but at the same you always want to have your Arena at least one division ahead of where you are because when you promote, you want those seats already in place to take advantage of the promotion bonus or you will be chasing dollars you'll never get back.
I'll agree that being ahead in building your arena is useful when you promote, but you don't promote every season. Also, the statement as written totally neglects opportunity cost, and thus is false.

Not that building seats is the secret to success, but when you are earning a significant amount of money more than your league mates because of your arena, it definitely gives you strong advantages.
Sure, but you are not earning that money with empty seats.

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272768.31 in reply to 272768.30
Date: 8/22/2015 10:47:03 AM
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I know that. If you're selling twelve seats at $10 dollars or sell six seats at $20, which way are you making more money? Answer: neither, it nets you not a penny more and you're still suffering the effects of overbuilding your stadium, either by having empty seats or low ticket prices to try to fill the overbuilt stadium.

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272768.33 in reply to 272768.31
Date: 8/22/2015 12:38:21 PM
Arizona Desert Storm
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I know that. If you're selling twelve seats at $10 dollars or sell six seats at $20, which way are you making more money? Answer: neither, it nets you not a penny more and you're still suffering the effects of overbuilding your stadium, either by having empty seats or low ticket prices to try to fill the overbuilt stadium.


The wonderful thing about BuzzerBeater is that there is more than one way to do things, and be successful. Not just one cookie cutter approach that all need to do, that would result in a boring game.

That being said, you are absolutely free to do things however you want with your team; but please stop giving advice to others....impressionable new players might actually listen to you and then regret it later.

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272768.34 in reply to 272768.33
Date: 8/22/2015 1:09:26 PM
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Indeed! "Impressionable new players" wouldn't stop overbuilding their arenas, wouldn't compete more strongly and threaten the status quo. Save the status quo, it is working for veterans, eh? Smart new players will scrutinize the conventional "wisdom," see that it leads to too much of their money not working for them, understand the opportunity cost that represents, and stop overbuilding their arenas ... and thus compete better than ever. Overall, that will be good for the game even if it means additional competition for the veterans around here.

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272768.35 in reply to 272768.34
Date: 8/22/2015 1:24:20 PM
Arizona Desert Storm
III.1
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Seriously? You won't let up lol

All I need to do is look at your Teams History, and your Arena to realize you lost this argument before it started. You have been to D3, with a DIV size Arena....Your foolish actions have preceded your foolish statements.

Argument over.

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