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I certainly believe it is a salary cap. In the experience we have seen in BB there is one common thing related to all the theories we have created so far: The actual way in wich BB works seems to be simpler that what we actually thought. Right Josef?

I strongly think the cap is salary based, no matter wich is the best position for a player if he hits his salary cap(based on potential) he will slow down his training on a step. A direct and simple set, nothing more than that. And it will be over, you can continue to shift between best positions trough training and salary will continue to increase, but as I already pointed out, the soft cap had been reach before.

I believe that what is confusing some people is the concept of potential they have and the fact that they see many different combinations of skills for the same positions that leads to the cap. In fact, some of us have seen two players with the same critical skills and salary for C position and one of them continue to train as usual while the other one trains with a much more slower training speed, perhaps, due to the reach of his cap. This has leads me to think that potential, as BB-Forrest somewhat said "everything in BB have sublevels except Staff", has sublevels. So an allstar center could reach his soft cap in 50k or maybe 60k depending if he is, for saying, 6.1 or 6.7 in his potential.

This would explain many things and like leyendinha has told, based on those assumptions, we are looking for information in order to continue to develop some intervals for every potential. With the information provided by the skills of many players we use the coefficients of salary obtained by Josef Ka in order to estimate the real salary a players is having when a manager told us that he's player is not training at the usual speed. This is the information we need, so If some others NT managers could help us out with more information -there is no need to say name, position or anything- just something like "We had player that slow downs his training when he was around 120k and have potential 7", It will be of high value for us.

Last edited by Zero, the Magi. at 4/6/2009 2:19:16 PM

Sublevels is the way to think it. Just think as this, there might be an allstar of 6.9 and there could be an perinneal allstar of potential 7.0.

Both players would reach their soft caps in very similar salaries.

The same logic applies between an allstar of 6.0 and an allstar of 6.9 could also explain in very satisfactory fashion why a player capped at 90-100k and other capped at 48-50k. Being consistent and completely possible, sublevels seems to be the most logic and realistic answer. Because when you consider the exponential growth in salaries and assume an exponential growth in the softs cap salaries of potential, everything starts to puzzle up.

Last edited by Zero, the Magi. at 4/6/2009 3:10:56 PM

Okay, sure. Are you saying that all 6.0 potential players cap at 50k or so? and sublevels change the cap.

I just don't think it is based on position

they never said that is it exactly the same formula and in my experienced blocking is more important for potential then for salary for a center ;)

And why you are saying that there are no different ways for guards, centers etc. for potential when you also say that is the salary formula, which is specific for all positions?

and i can tell you with almost complete certainly the same ;)

And salary isn't the same for every position, so even with your only salary theory, there are different caps for PG and Center skill wise ;) With lot of rebound training he reach the cap for centers first, he can not unluck it in switching to PF but with JS training it won't get worse., till he get a PF(when he training him as a guar so he don't get IS training)