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Date: 12/13/2014 9:18:15 AM
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You're not the only one, I've always insisted some SB is useful, including on guards.

Anyway.

Back to the main issue - I think we need a third NT guy to continue the player development work the U21s do.

Our NT manager has done a great job with the players he has, but I think it's a big ask for him to get the 22-25 year olds with the best owners for their continued development.

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You're not the only one, I've always insisted some SB is useful, including on guards.

Even as I was writing I was pretty sure I'd seen you say something about SB in the past.

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Date: 12/13/2014 9:23:18 AM
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I think I was intending to refer to the consensus on the bb forums rather than specific individuals, although I am sure you knew that too.

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Sorry, I edited my post above to re-open tbe debate - you were too quick for me!

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that's why I let it go. There has always been a minority view 9n this though.

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Only way to do that is probably to have candidates put themselves forward and do a forum vote.

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I'd rather Gully just picked someone he was happy to work with, unless we actually get an U25 competition like I asked for on the suggestions forum


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You're not the only one, I've always insisted some SB is useful, including on guards.


Yet, quoting the game manual,
Shot Blocking: Will help to block shots. Not very useful for perimeter players
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I agree it does work when used on that mutual team support, everyone or nobody on sb hype it should be.

But training sb for nt is not taking it to 17, unless effectively you just want to give up on IS, salary wise.
You could take it to 12 maybe, but then you are making a player like this
13 9
11 13
13 9
16 16
16 12

That is, exchanging 1-2 levels in IS and ID for the similar salary. And asking this to a committed manager is not the nicest.

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Date: 12/13/2014 9:34:39 AM
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I'd rather Gully just picked someone he was happy to work with, unless we actually get an U25 competition like I asked for on the suggestions forum


Both great suggestions, U25 would certainly provide a huge bonus to that critical gap in the attention of NT managers

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Once upon a time I had an NT centre Darryl Austin, rubbish secondaries but 18 16 16 12, and the 12 SB made a little difference at NT level (it had far more impact at EBBL level).
I think 18 / 17 / 14 / 14 would be interesting.

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Our NT manager has done a great job with the players he has, but I think it's a big ask for him to get the 22-25 year olds with the best owners for their continued development.

Great suggestion. I also like your idea about an u24 or u25 competition, but when it was suggested before people seemed to make a huge dog's dinner of it and made it sound like a mess. Its still at its core, an excellent idea.

There's also been a lot of talk in this thread about training. While relevant, I believe its missing the point. It isn't that people are training players badly. Except in my case perhaps. Or being badly advised. Its that many people with trainees don't do anything with them. I've tried to get them to see the value of them, see my posts in every league's forum last season, but I don't think they're being read.

Zeus can tell you how difficult it is to get people to even realise we're trying to help them.

I'd love to help all those people who want to train someone to find a suitable draftee, but I think we all know they're not numerous. And they're often ludicrously priced.

I do have some thoughts on what we could do if we had a busload of MVPs every season. But until we find a way to persuade people what is basically in their own interests, then we face the same problems we're seeing now.

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