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84879.258 in reply to 84879.257
Date: 4/8/2010 11:06:31 PM
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Exactly. If you're going to train a player out of position, it's best to do it young if you can while training speeds are the fastest.
Stuff like Jump Shot isn't really out of position but if you're only training it for a season or so, you want the best results possible.

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84879.259 in reply to 84879.258
Date: 4/8/2010 11:12:45 PM
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Alright cheers, I'll do that.

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84879.260 in reply to 84879.258
Date: 4/9/2010 4:20:11 AM
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Well so far this season he had had a pop in Stamina, Inside Shot and Inside Defence now. (ID popped this week). And I am going to do one-on-one training this coming week. Just wondering if you would suggest training it as Forwards or Guards? Forwards seems to train Driving and Handling much quicker, but takes an extra week or so for a pop in JS, but it also trains Inside Shot. Guards seems to train driving and handling a little slower but gives a pop in jump shot every 3-4 weeks, but no training on inside shot.

It seems to me like training Forwards is a bigger advantage, but just thought I'd ask anyway.
Cheers

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84879.261 in reply to 84879.260
Date: 4/9/2010 4:28:20 AM
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I always do one on one training with forwards because of IS. For a C definately do forwards because you are training outside skills and not all outside trainings also improve inside skills. Play him as PF this week.

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Date: 4/9/2010 4:57:06 AM
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Train one on one when they're older. Secondaries are not as important as getting his primaries up first.

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84879.263 in reply to 84879.262
Date: 4/9/2010 5:28:59 AM
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But direwolf said to train them first....mmm...confused :D

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Date: 4/9/2010 6:07:51 AM
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Bah, just finished a big post and my phone wouldn't post it. Hope this one works.

Something nearly all big man trainers tend to forget about are the salaries that big men can be hit with. Sure, you could train a IS/ID/REB monster but
A) he won't be as effective as a well rounded player
B) his salary will get out of control so quickly that you'll be forced to either stop training him or sell him while he's still fairly young.

I recommend spending the first season or so rounding out those 'guard skills' if you can because you'll have a better player in the long run and be able to handle your salaries more easily as well.

As far as this issue goes, like I said before: if you're only training those guard skills for a season or so, you want to maximize your results by doing it young.
Completely up to you and what's best for your team though.

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84879.265 in reply to 84879.263
Date: 4/9/2010 6:28:04 AM
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I suppose he's right too. I rounded up my player when he was 20.

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84879.266 in reply to 84879.264
Date: 4/9/2010 7:08:19 AM
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Cheers. I'm going to follow what you said. Thanks for all the advice. I'll keep you updated on his progress :) hopefully he makes the national team.

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84879.267 in reply to 84879.265
Date: 4/9/2010 7:30:58 AM
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Just to add my 2 bob in as the U21 manager, I would imagine it would be very difficult for a player to make the U21 team as a PF/C with a season and a half of guard skills training, his inside skills just wouldn't be up to the required standard by the time he's 21 (not impossible though, if anyone can do it, an 18 y/o with the 4 inside skills at respectable can). Having said that, I imagine such a player will be more wage efficient, and probably better for your own team (and as Direwolf says, you'll be able to train him for longer due to the wage costs being lower). Such a player would probably work out better for the NT in the long run.

I'll qualify this by saying I'm a guard trainer, and have less idea about big men training that others may have however

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84879.268 in reply to 84879.267
Date: 4/9/2010 7:43:19 AM
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Well my goal is to get him on the U21 national team and the national team. So what do you suggest to get him on the team? Btw, he is on strong inside defence now.

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