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I like how your PD is only 25 lower than mine despite 5 fewer wins. I really have been pulling through by the skin of my teeth. Also I wouldn't advertise your recent success, you don't want any extra attention. Actually what am I saying, Silverbacks are #1, everyone go Normal him!

Haha I'm not so sure I'm anything to worry about considering that you're still undefeated and just beat the, arguably, best team in the Great 8, on the road ... whereas I have a losing record at home. Clearly, everyone needs to start throwing CTs your way to have a chance

Wow, you signed Milhouse! (26910461)

"everything's coming up millhouse"
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M67E9mpwBpM&feature=re...)

Milhouse in Italian:
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rob-xygJSAk&t=5s)
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKvZCoMq8-U)

You know, I think the USA offsite is a pretty sweet tool. The Advanced Stats are nice to look at, but sometimes you seriously question if it's remotely accurate.

In our game the Offsite Advanced Stats said you had 91 possessions. Except you had 92 field goal attempts. Add in your trips to the free throw line and the turnovers which didn't result in a field goal attempt and I think you get a lot more than just 91 possessions. I went to the offsite to check out some of the more obscure stats to try and glean how I managed to pull out the win despite your complete dominance on the boards. I mean, I only had 6 more defensive rebounds than you did offensive rebounds. But after seeing it say you only had 4 more possessions than I did, I kind of just closed the window and decided that game didn't load right or something.

Oh, I'm stupid. Whatever, the coffee machine is broken at work...that's my excuse...yeah.

It's subtracting the o-boards from the FGA, since theoretically it's just a continued possession. So that's how he got fewer possessions than FGA.

You know, I think the USA offsite is a pretty sweet tool. The Advanced Stats are nice to look at, but sometimes you seriously question if it's remotely accurate.

i've actually never even looked at any of that before. the only thing i've seen was the match predictor. (or whatever it's called.)

IMO, the key to the game was your SF going 10-12 & hitting 2 3s. (i mean he only had 2 made 3s all season)
plus nothing was falling for me. even when my center got injured, the coach's replacement promptly misses both FTs, lol.
my top players were really bad too... like through 3 quarters Alas had all of 2 rebounds & my best shooter was 1-10. late in the game he couldn't even hit a 3 pointer guarded by your PF. (& he's leading the league in 3pt%)

i'm just glad i didn't find out after the game you used less effort, or have my center remain injured.

I went to the offsite to check out some of the more obscure stats to try and glean how I managed to pull out the win

i get the feeling that if the game were re-run 100 times... you'd win about half the time in various ways. some games you'd rebound much better than you did, some games you'd take a ton of FTs, some games you'd be in serious foul trouble, some games i'd shoot a much better % than i did, etc...
so rather than having it play out more or less the same way it did every time... you'd have a bunch of very different games.

like, look at these 2 games that were only 7 days apart:
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Both have the same team at home & equal effort. In the first game Walker Wiggles defeated LMA in a close game. So, what happens in the rematch 1 week later? WW goes on to lose at home by 23 points to LMA!!! That's an insane swing from 1 game to the other.



That's why the NBA has 7 game series in the playoffs, and doesn't leave things up to the randomness of an individual game. Unlike here, where it''s more of an NCAA tournament "anything can happen" type of thing.

Last edited by shikago at 6/28/2012 7:58:52 AM

The large point differential between those two games was primarily due to my and Coco's managerial choices, not because of a purported wildly unpredictable game engine. In the first game I had a large game shape advantage, which Coco mitigated for the second game. In my last B3 match one can see the importance of game shape, as I won 106-44 against a higher-salaried team with poor game shape. I knew I would lose to Coco in the playoffs, which is why I hoped the #2 seeded Bruins would knock him out for me, but for whatever reason he crunch timed on the last game of the regular season which made that impossible.

It's possible I would've won the last two NBBA titles if managers didn't sabotage their teams on the last game of the regular season. Last season FTF played their starters in what for them was a meaningless game, which could've resulted in his demoting if Owens or Zitter suffered an injury, and which cost me HCA over the Goats and likely cost me a championship. He said he was unable to change his lineup, though, and Coco likely would've beaten the Bruins anyway, so I've pardoned their crimes against my team.

was your SF going 10-12 & hitting 2 3s. (i mean he only had 2 made 3s all season)

Stud. Talk about basketball IQ, he's just good at picking his spots. But seriously, that was big, you also fouled Molaro on a 3 he probably would have missed. I'm one of the worst 3 point shooting teams in the league. I have no qualms about that, I wish I shot zero threes for the whole season. If I wanted to shoot more 3's I'd need to do a whole lot of roster shuffling and TL searching.

i get the feeling that if the game were re-run 100 times... you'd win about half the time in various ways.

Sounds about right. A lot of things could have gone differently. We hit some extremes this match, such as Poom suddenly becoming an unstoppable shooter. And I'm not sure how you could rebound any better than you did. You had almost as many offensive rebounds as I did defensive rebounds.

We did have some similarities though. We both had 16 fouls. Our assist to turnover ratios were about the same. Our benches both made 8 FG's, and despite your bench missing 5 more shots than mine did, they had 5 o-boards to make up for it.

not because of a purported wildly unpredictable game engine. In the first game I had a large game shape advantage, which Coco mitigated for the second game.

so Coco had really bad GS when you played the 1st game? i wasn't aware of that. I thought he usually managed his minutes pretty well though? (the way you put it, i imagine his entire team going from the lowest sub level of respectable to proficient at the training update... how bad was it?)

Plus in the rematch, his starting SF got injured less than 10 minutes into the game!!! Wouldn't that at least partially negate his gains in game shape? I mean, you may have fully expected to lose the 2nd game, but would you really have predicted a 23 point blowout minus his starting SF?

In my last B3 match one can see the importance of game shape, as I won 106-44

well your B3 opponent was... starting multiple guys with inept GS.. lol. i know what you're getting at though.

I hoped the #2 seeded Bruins would knock him out for me, but for whatever reason he crunch timed on the last game of the regular season which made that impossible.

Actually, if the Bruins didn't beat me I would have finished in 2nd place. And you would have faced the Bruins in round 1. (2nd place vs. LMA would've arguably been a worse match-up than facing you on the road)