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112492.26 in reply to 112492.25
Date: 9/21/2009 4:50:35 PM
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I do not think we should have an easy way to "set" the minutes a player is going to spend on court. Not for competitive games, not for scrimmages.

Like some other aspects of training, I tend to think that we need to lose some of "real basket simulation" in order to win some of "fun game of basket simulation".

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112492.27 in reply to 112492.25
Date: 9/21/2009 9:25:11 PM
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Did you play Strictly follow depth chart?

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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112492.28 in reply to 112492.24
Date: 9/21/2009 9:51:27 PM
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"in a game that is pointless except for training purposes"

It is part of the challenge of training to get your players appropriate minutes. I don't know how many different ways it can be said. If you can't or won't see that managing minutes is exactly the point of scrimmages I don't know what to tell you. If it wasn't a bit of a challenge you wouldn't have posted.

I have no idea what a dirft is.
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Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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112492.29 in reply to 112492.28
Date: 9/21/2009 10:28:34 PM
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It is part of the challenge of training to get your players appropriate minutes. I don't know how many different ways it can be said.


You've said it one way, try another I guess.

I understand that for some it's a challenge. If you consider this a 'challenge', I'm sorry.. that's your problem. For me, it is not a challenge. I just consider it a minor nuisance that could be easily fixed. This is a moot point anyways, it won't be changed and I really don't care too much. I just thought I'd throw an idea out there. Different minds are bound to disagree, so we do. No probs.

Anyways, no one plays their starters in scrims during the season anyways, so minute management is cake. Not a 'challenge'.

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112492.30 in reply to 112492.29
Date: 9/21/2009 11:46:43 PM
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Getting your players optimal minutes is part of the challenge of the game.
Training minutes present a challenge to managers, who need to juggle their lineups in three games a week.
Weekly minutes are challenging to balance.
Gameshape hinges on players receiving game minutes. Too many or too many and the game shape goes down.This is one of the challenging aspects of management.




For me, it is not "cake" to get all of my players between 55-65 minutes per week so that at important times during the season my gameshapes are all proficient. In fact, I find it quite difficult to do that and win.

I do not find it a problem that I find challenges in this game. I find it the opposite of a problem.

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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112492.31 in reply to 112492.25
Date: 9/22/2009 1:42:10 AM
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Fouls and injuries I agree with. Garbage time and freedom of coach can be eliminated by proper lineup manipulation, in my experience.

Look at my last game.At the end of the third quarter i went in garbage time and without injuries or foul troubles(3 fouls made in 36 minutes),my coach substituted him with players setted as reserves in other roles


You dressed far too many players for the game. Simple as that.

Best way IMO to get 48mins is to dress 8 players. 3 subs on the 2 non-training positions and SFDC. The ONLY time that fails is via an inj/foul out. Even in this event it is unlikely a lucky fan will come in (maybe temporarily) one of the other 3 subs will be allocated to the position.

No way you can dress 12 guys and expect a guy to play 48mins even without setting any back up or reserve for them.

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112492.32 in reply to 112492.27
Date: 9/22/2009 5:52:24 AM
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I played "Coach Picks from Depth Chart",but that player is my strongest player,as you can see easily

From: kLepTo
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112492.33 in reply to 112492.32
Date: 9/22/2009 9:39:19 PM
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I used to think people who complained about the substitution pattern were just mistaken. Maybe they put too many players in, pick the wrong coaching strategy, etc. Well today's game, I just saw my PG (whom I'm training) get replaced by my backup Center. W. T. F. ?. And at that point in the game there was 1 - 1.5 minutes left and I was up by <10, >5. No foul trouble, no injuries, no blowout. PG replaced by a backup C.

(http://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/15489545/boxscore.aspx)

*shrugs*

EDIT: I'm going to take this as a sign that the BB-Gods are telling me to go back to 5 person training instead of 3.

Last edited by kLepTo at 9/22/2009 9:41:09 PM

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112492.34 in reply to 112492.33
Date: 9/22/2009 10:18:30 PM
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What's the difference in free throw skill between the two?

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Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
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112492.35 in reply to 112492.34
Date: 9/22/2009 10:44:01 PM
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2 levels higher. I guess if you look at it that way if you only consider the FTs. Just takes you by surprise when a C with no PG skills gets put in at the point.

From: docend24

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112492.36 in reply to 112492.1
Date: 9/23/2009 3:17:07 AM
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The substitution algorithm, while it's much better than a few seasons ago (esp. in end of quarter situations), is still annoying.

It bothers me that I cannot have a 5k scrub play 10-15 minutes in a game. My aim here is not minutes-handling for training/form purposes. Rather, it is to give teams a chance to see their best player do well in the last quarter (rather than start like crazy and then miss shot after shot down the stretch).

1) What is the principle behind your choice?

2) Would you consider giving us an option (like the "let them play"/"sit them" button) to be more generous towards the bench?

3) Is this your attempt to exact revenge on Scalabrine?

2) Please not (only as another tactic patern not by changing current ones). It is bothering but achieveable. very often you have an opposite problem.

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