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11294.26 in reply to 11294.17
Date: 1/3/2008 10:20:16 PM
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There are so many variables (i.e. skills) for each player that having a meaningful Transfer Compare is pretty much impossible.


Well, take a real life example. There are dozens of factors that influence the price of a stock. Analysts still manage to come up with a statistically meaningful price for them.

It's difficult, but far from impossible. Actually I do that kind of thing for living :)

If you know anything about econometrics or statistical inference, well, you have to come up with a multi factor model of price.
In our case the factors are blatantly obvious so the difficult part if taken care of. Then you get lots of prices and do a regression (possibly non-linear and with exponential smoothing) and ta-dah you have a pricing model...

The main problem is accessing the data. I need an API for that...

/elboss

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11294.27 in reply to 11294.26
Date: 1/4/2008 3:26:58 PM
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Many people register not only one team. Only one team are real , others are branch.

Then these branch teams can sell the best player and have much money. After that these branch teams can buy @ very high price from the real team.

BB should control this happen again and again.

New register team should not have very good player to let these branch can sell.

Our honesty people are hurt again and again , how long can support us to play BB if cheat always exist ?

BB can not allow same IP address to register team like HT !!!

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11294.28 in reply to 11294.27
Date: 1/4/2008 3:53:30 PM
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We most certainly do detect and eliminate cheaters.

NO ONE at this table ordered a rum & Coke
Charles: Penn has some good people
A CT? Really?
Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
Any five are live
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11294.29 in reply to 11294.27
Date: 1/4/2008 4:12:49 PM
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we need to work all together, if anyone just would check his league, they would have no chance.

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11294.30 in reply to 11294.29
Date: 1/4/2008 6:08:54 PM
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now i only look to buy players that can better my squad i use the filters more often than i used to...

its AMAZING how many players with deadlines still 48+ hours to go have attracted higher than average bidding...

with a chance of injury who would slap a 300k opening bid on a player that could be crippled for 1/2 a season by the time the expiration comes around...

i think we just have to keep weeding them out and hope the GMs/BBs do impose the necessary punishments....

(im off to check if anything obvious has occured with the last few people i reported)

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11294.31 in reply to 11294.30
Date: 1/4/2008 6:45:19 PM
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Remember. Playoffs are in 1 week.

Strong inflation is to be expected this week. Teams will do last minutes buys to improve their chances to promote.

/elboss

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11294.32 in reply to 11294.31
Date: 1/4/2008 6:57:16 PM
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sure - but it has to be realistic - otherwise there would be no reason to try and sell players any week other than this week... then reinvest after the playoffs....

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11294.33 in reply to 11294.32
Date: 1/4/2008 7:09:12 PM
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sure - but it has to be realistic - otherwise there would be no reason to try and sell players any week other than this week... then reinvest after the playoffs....


Yep. You just came up with a rather successfull trading strategy.

Real life markets are very inefficient, professionals make money in stocks and derivatives all the time.

Game markets are so easy to manipulate it's unreal! :)

/elboss

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11294.34 in reply to 11294.33
Date: 1/4/2008 7:25:35 PM
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the biggest problem i see is that the more committed players know that thursday is the best day to buy... as most players tend to fetch fair valuations.. (no big discrepancy)

its when these players get automatically relisted to expire on Sunday that the more fairweather user looks on the TL sees a load of toilet and then sees what he thinks is a great player amongst the crap and then pays the new inflated price...

thats not game inflation that is just preying on stupidity... i also sometimes put above market prices on to see if anyone bites the only downside i see is that my opponents can view my players stats but this is the least of my concern....

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11294.35 in reply to 11294.34
Date: 1/4/2008 11:11:09 PM
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I don't disagree with you. But just like in real life, markets are full of suckers.

You can't tell people not to overpay. The right price is what someone is willing to pay.

Player prices oscillate in BB just like the price of Vodafone oscillates in real life. It does not mean that Vodafone traders are stupid. That's just the nature of auction based markets.

A liquid market (more people) will have less price discrepancy (technically prices are less volatile, not sure about your background here, so I'm refraining from doing trader talk)

A market where at times there are less than 500 players is not liquid at all, hence more inefficient and with more price volatility. Traders can exploit that. It does not mean that other people are stupid.

At the end of the day, a "stupid" guy that pays 700K for a player worth 400K and goes off to win the title is not stupid at all. The other people in the league were blind to the opportunity and lost the title.

The idea of the BB is that if you have money in the bank you got to use it to win, you are not encouraged to hoarde money like in HT.

//elboss

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11294.36 in reply to 11294.35
Date: 1/4/2008 11:58:23 PM
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Vodafone and most liquid shares are so liquid that the daily hi-low differential rarely extends beyond 2%..

BB players at the moment can fluctuate +300% in 3 days... so not even comparable

I agree with the spending the extra 300k to win a league is never in debate..

this is a thread about cheaters..... they know who they are and they will be weeded out.... but yes until there is a steady 1000-2000 always online there will be some wilder price swings and valuations....

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