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135029.26 in reply to 135029.25
Date: 3/19/2010 9:40:34 AM
Nitra Corgons
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Well, question is if they will remain in NTs if they change owner very often and so their game shape will suffer. I didnt say they dissapear from one day to another.

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135029.28 in reply to 135029.27
Date: 3/19/2010 11:15:48 AM
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You think so? Haven't noticed such a thing. I would estimate they would net 10-20k in mechandise.
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My own experience with a player that I drafted and then played for Canada's NT was an impact between 5-20K. And this is with a player who only had a 40K salary. So if indeed these effects are proportional to salary (as the rules seem to indicate), I stand by those numbers.

What evidence do I have of this? I have always noticed that my merch revenue has been consistently higher than the average in my series, in spite of having lower salaries overall and finishing near the middle of the pack the last two seasons. Also, after I sold Wendon, I had an immediate drop of 13.5K in merchandise, in spite of the fact that I won my previous home game and had virtually no change in my fan survey.

Of course, having never owner a 1 million salary player, I cannot say definitively what the impact would be.

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135029.29 in reply to 135029.28
Date: 3/19/2010 11:20:17 AM
Nitra Corgons
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i have sold Serbian NT player with 180k salary and my merch drop was about 10k.. So that is pretty much the price.

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135029.31 in reply to 135029.13
Date: 3/19/2010 11:27:37 AM
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the merch revenue is the same of the other weeks,the other incomes drops ;D


I remember you from the other thread where you undervalue the merch impact of things like player from your country and NT players. I sold a player like that last week, I can tell you that the effect is quite noticeable.

Sorry,I think you overvalue very very very much the impact of the merchanidising in the economy of a team.If you want to have an increase in the merchandising of 10k you have to afford a salary four or five times higher than increased merchandising incomes,and you not consider the price paid for the player

And a team who doesn't make any move on the market,surely has the same merch revenue of the other weeks,while if is eliminated from the playoffs,the other incomes drops

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Date: 3/19/2010 12:39:07 PM
Kitakyushu
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$650,000 Arena income
150,000 TV contract
125,000 Merchandising
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$925,000...is about what the top teams are making a week...peace

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Date: 3/19/2010 3:25:06 PM
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If you want to have an increase in the merchandising of 10k you have to afford a salary four or five times higher than increased merchandising incomes,and you not consider the price paid for the player


Perhaps true if the player is just an NT player (I really do not know the answer to be honest). However, if you have the triple: NT player, domestic and he is one of your draftees, now we are talking a different ball game.

But I am willing to accept the possibility that I am wrong. In that case, I am still struggling to explain my $13,500 merch drop on March 8th (I was still in the playoffs at the time). And this week my merch dropped by another $7,000, in spite of the purchase of an NT PG and an improved PR manager (although in this case it is likely due to my playoff loss).

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135029.34 in reply to 135029.23
Date: 3/19/2010 5:26:15 PM
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Why should a rookie expect, as if by some divine right, that he will reach the top someday?

For me a game is more interesting if there is some uncertainty, when you wonder if you have what it takes to get to the top division, or even into III or better.

If the game is merely a function of time spent, and one day even if you play relatively poorly you know you will get there, it isn't much of a game.

I would have been happy to start in Division X but alas not possible. If you want rookies to have more fun, especially in small countries, let there be more competition.

Last edited by CorruptCop at 3/19/2010 5:34:50 PM

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135029.36 in reply to 135029.33
Date: 3/19/2010 5:51:10 PM
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If you want to have an increase in the merchandising of 10k you have to afford a salary four or five times higher than increased merchandising incomes,and you not consider the price paid for the player


Perhaps true if the player is just an NT player (I really do not know the answer to be honest). However, if you have the triple: NT player, domestic and he is one of your draftees, now we are talking a different ball game.

But I am willing to accept the possibility that I am wrong. In that case, I am still struggling to explain my $13,500 merch drop on March 8th (I was still in the playoffs at the time). And this week my merch dropped by another $7,000, in spite of the purchase of an NT PG and an improved PR manager (although in this case it is likely due to my playoff loss).

We're not discussing if a NT/national/draftee player help the merchandisng,becaue we know he do it
The starting point of our discussion was if it was normal that the price of players dropped in post season period,because many teams cannot afford the salary of their new player.AIf we admit a national player will increas of 20k the merch revenue,you have to consider that the same player has a salary at least thrre or four times the merch revenue.from a strcitly economical point of view,however you have to afford more expenses than the money you earn with the increased merch.So,also in these cases,the price of the players should be a little lower in the post season weeks to find a player with the possibility to sustain him.

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