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163452.26 in reply to 163452.21
Date: 11/10/2010 6:46:23 AM
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My guy 41k salary
C J. Castañé 43 8 - 14 2 - 3 2 - 2 4 18 4 1 2 0 0 20 10.5
His guy 60k salary
C G. Dukats 33 0 - 1 0 - 0 0 - 0 2 18 1 3 0 0 6 0 10.5

That's 20 points, 18 rebounds, 4 assists, 1 steal, 2 blocks for my guy and
0 points, 18 rebounds, 1 assist, 3 steals, 0 blocks and 6 fouls for his guy.
In the case of the PF, my SF who played against him has horrific rebounding (less than 6) so he got outrebounded 17-9, but while the other PF had a better game I don't think I would say he dominated. But the question was about center and in the case of the centers, my guy dominated for sure.
Anyway, I just wanted to test out what that other guy said and I am satisfied that a well-rounded SF can hold his own against a position specific Center in run and gun.

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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163452.27 in reply to 163452.26
Date: 11/10/2010 9:46:47 AM
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wont it be much simpler if you just do 1 position training and get 3 great guard trainees with average/respectable Reb instead of random trainees and in a few season times brush up on the rebounding then.

seriously balanced skills may be good but primaries are still primaries. theres a reason why they are call primaries. sure if you have a whole team of good rebounders but if your bigs are getting outmatched by alot which is the main factor and your guards end up being worst than the other team due to this weird plan... ultimately you will still get creamed.

dont get me wrong, I got whole team of rebounders in my starters and the lowest being respectable. you still need your C/PF to grab those boards.

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163452.28 in reply to 163452.27
Date: 11/10/2010 9:53:05 AM
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Theres no use arguing his mind is made up!

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163452.29 in reply to 163452.25
Date: 11/10/2010 12:17:34 PM
Cruesli
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Wow, you've put a lot of work into that spreadsheet. It looks really nice and is a nice way of keeping the data. People will also appreciate your track of training progress I think since it might give us some facts to add to the training speed thread in global.

Are you sure you can keep up with posting all these match stats as well though? That's a lot of work for something that's also being archived inside the game.

Also, you might not want to base the position of your PG/SG/SF on your formula. For trainingpurposes it might be an interesting formula but it tells you nothing about which player performs best at which spot. And since those 3 positions don't matter for your training it's best to fill them in based on general game knowledge.

Last edited by Tesse at 11/10/2010 12:20:54 PM

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163452.30 in reply to 163452.29
Date: 11/10/2010 4:27:32 PM
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i do not understand what u mean by that last paragraph

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163452.31 in reply to 163452.30
Date: 11/10/2010 5:53:17 PM
Cruesli
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In your spreadsheet I noticed that your line-up is also based on your "value to team" formula. For trainingpurpose you could use this formula (to decide which players play C and PF). But for the rest of your line-up it doesn't make much sense.

For example take Team A:

Dylan is now your SG, but his low JR and higher ID make him more suitable as an SF, and Castelmoto as an SG or PG. For your training this switch won't matter but it might get you better results.


So I would suggest that you don't let your formula decide which players play PG/SG/SF but instead decide on a game to game basis where these 3 belong.

p.s. You can still let the formula decide which players make team A, B or C of course.
p.p.s. It's just a suggestion, I'll be interested in your training results either way.

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163452.32 in reply to 163452.1
Date: 11/11/2010 4:05:45 PM
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I like the idea, although it wouldn't work for me personally.

Wish you good luck and hope you have fun doing it!!!

:)

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163452.33 in reply to 163452.32
Date: 11/12/2010 8:43:27 AM
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This sounds like something i was doing last year, that i may start doing again this season. I think this is a good idea to have a bunch of 18 and 19 year olds as trainees. I think i'll try this again myself. Because players 24 and over don't improve much, at least not from my experience. But 18 and 19 years olds as the manual says improves a lot, especially if you have a good trainer. So i hope this works out for you, what you're planning on doing, it sounds great.

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163452.34 in reply to 163452.25
Date: 11/12/2010 5:40:36 PM
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ok i didnt log last week since the team roster wasnt completely set
i trained rebounding, two position training
six players got their 48 mins
4 popped

im starting to wonder how blown out of proportion the height effecting training may be?
sure if u want some world class best pg in the game type of player it probably wouldnt happen if he is 6'10"
but on a basis of rounding out a player to be better for your team the training dont seem that bad so far (i know tiny sample size so far)
but most people seem too afraid to train rebounding on a guard thinking its gonna take too long

well 4 of 6 players popped lol 5'10" through 6'4"

just figured id give some small update so far
first game is in 10 hrs 20 mins and i will update the spreadsheet soon following with stats etc and get this ball rolling
thanks for the support and suggestions guys


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163452.35 in reply to 163452.34
Date: 11/12/2010 5:58:09 PM
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I do not Height is blow. I have a 6 ft 18 y/o trainee who has had 6 pops with level 6 trainer this season.

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163452.36 in reply to 163452.1
Date: 11/13/2010 6:36:53 AM
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wow first game in the books and it was an exciting one, the score does not tell the story or do this game justice
i had no business still being in this game late, but untill the last few minutes i was right there with them and they finally pulled away
this was the second best team in the conference i was playing lol ! :)

my second best player got taken out of game after a flagrant foul/injury (good thing is i checked roster and it appears to have just been for the rest of game...wheeeew!) at around the 12 min mark, replaced by a lucky fan im convinced this is the only reason i lost this game, in which i should have been over matched anyways but for some reason i was taking it to these guys even with them at normal and me at TIE

in game rating my PF/C outplayed theirs, although the stats dont really show it, Nazyrov (43pts 5rb 3ast 3stl 1blk) had a huge night
both training players got their 48 even though lavandeira (21pts 17rb 8ast 1stl 1blk) fouled out with under a min left to send them to the line

spreadsheet updated https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0AgiIAK1Xty1ydEdha..., cant wait for next game, hope its another nail biter, i have a feeling next season this will start turning into a very strong team

PS: Also anyone with a similar caliber team (aka div IV around same salary and skill) if you want to scrim me send me an invite to scrim and u can be a part of the experiment magic against my scrim squad :) first come first served.... thanks

Last edited by Coach Dundee at 11/13/2010 6:45:34 AM

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