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OK you got this completely wrong, you made it sound like I'm xenophobic or racist which I'm not. You are also making arguments as if you strictly have to have the alternative names when you don't at all, even if you do choose so you can have more guys in your teams with names of people from your country, it be shown on the side, not replacing the real name which will always be there and the same.

If my name was for example Wilhem, and I went to USA and said I didn't want to be called William, would that make me xenophobic or racist?

The point that I'm trying to make is that it be cool to have names associated with your country. After all, there are alternative names you see in different countries all around the world in real life, like Wilhem is William in German, Etienne is Steve in French... There are in fact all sorts of American names for people in China/Taiwan (I know because I have some friends from there). Because such names in real life exist, does that mean those that created it are xenophobic?

What I'm suggesting is much simpler and helpful and can give a tool to people something that they would like. You and chris902 have taken this into way out of context and start thinking this is an act of xenophobia. By now it seems most people missed the point of what I'm really suggesting because if you knew, then you wouldn't even come close to such accusation. Try to read again some of the things I said and most importantly understand that this is a much simpler and minor implementation than you make it out to be.

Last edited by Coach_Gil at 3/24/2011 1:13:02 PM

When I have time I'll put an image showing exactly what I have in mind. It should clear alot of the confusion that goes around here, particularly that the original name becomes less available than before when it isn't the case.

What exactly is an "American" name?

And Garcia and Rodríguez and the 8th and 9th most popular surnames based on the 2000 census (I can imagine that will change considerably this time around). My point is that this whole suggestion is premised on an idealized concept of what it means to be "American" which is not reflective of anything real. It's a myth about American homogeneity.

It should clear alot of the confusion that goes around here, particularly that the original name becomes less available than before when it isn't the case.

I'm not seeing confusion about this suggestion. There is just very little support for it.

Aight I been ok that people don't like the idea from before. It just that people started to throw create names, change names, take names away, xenophobe comments.... which isn't supposed to be an issue with this and it would be understood if they understood specifically the point of this.

I should've mentioned from the begining what I really had in mind is that the name would be in the middle between the real name and the position of the player and the font color would be anything but black maybe blue and that if players see the alternative names in box scores and games in that different color.

I guess if it won't be worth much to change if the names come from latin root (english, french, italian, spanish...) anyways. I figured a more realistic thing to do is for countries with different writings like hebrew, chinese, Greek... that they can have the names of the players (and not alternative or another name) translated in the middle in their own native language. I know when I read BB in Hebrew i see the players names in English.

Last edited by Coach_Gil at 3/25/2011 6:32:45 PM

I figured a more realistic thing to do is for countries with different writings like hebrew, chinese, Greek... that they can have the names of the players (and not alternative or another name) translated in the middle in their own native language. I know when I read BB in Hebrew i see the players names in English.

But it is never as easy as that. So who does the translations? The team owner themselves making up a name (and what if what the name is is completely different to what the real name actually is?) or the LAs have to go and make translations?

Also, a big problem with direct translations to a native language is that you can get completely different meanings with the native language. Most often the native language will just take some words that sound as similar as it can to the foreign language. E.g Obama = O Bus Horse in Chinese.

There are translation online tools everywhere that can do it. and from experience with Hebrew translation, I never experienced a translation that came off sounding different than the actual name. The names more often than not appear just as they are written in Hebrew when you watch a basketball game there on tv.

I see what you mean about the Obama thing, like if the computer read the last name Hill in translation it would actually translate the word Hill referencing the not as steep mountain. Well if translation tools are smart enough to translate any words and even sentences I'm sure there is someplace that has a tool that directly translate letters in the other language as its read regardless if it can be found in the dictionary.

Last edited by Coach_Gil at 3/25/2011 11:19:57 PM