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219104.26 in reply to 219104.22
Date: 6/12/2012 9:45:15 AM
Kitakyushu
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It is broken no matter what you say.....
Example; I was 4-0 and I play my rival on TV(he too is undefeated)..I lose in a close game but 18.640 fans show up...after that I win 3 more in a row (not including my cup wins)and now I am 7-1 but only 17,417 fans show up to my home game tonight.. Now why is the Fan survey still punishing me sooo hard for that one loss?
And the team I lost to is still undefeated. You think they would take that into effect, it isn't like I lost to a bum. You would think that the fans would soon start to forget about the loss as their team keeps winning. Kind of like the disappointment would be overtaken by anticipation as the time gets closer to the next meeting. same with the TV game...The fan survey needs a major overhaul in my opinion.

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219104.29 in reply to 219104.26
Date: 6/12/2012 9:52:30 AM
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And the team I lost to is still undefeated. You think they would take that into effect, it isn't like I lost to a bum. You would think that the fans would soon start to forget about the loss as their team keeps winning.


Very well said. +1 for you, sir.

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219104.30 in reply to 219104.28
Date: 6/12/2012 9:58:39 AM
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maybe it is not broken, but i don't like the priorities too.

But i also doubt the hattrick system is better, but it can definately get tweaked and i would be happpy if the BB do it with less effect on the last game and some differences betwen win and lose.

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219104.32 in reply to 219104.31
Date: 6/12/2012 10:12:56 AM
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maybe it is not broken, but i don't like the priorities too.

But i also doubt the hattrick system is better, but it can definately get tweaked and i would be happpy if the BB do it with less effect on the last game and some differences betwen win and lose.

I don't think the priorities are problematic, or the effect of the last game are too large. Last game is one of eight components of the fan survey. A single game, by itself, will typically have a fairly small effect on the fan mood in aggregate.

To give you an example, I just came back from 3 seasons of inactivity, which means i basically was dead last in the league last season, and had to replace my entire roster. I've won every single game this season, and my fan survey is at 3.5 balls with little prospects of going above this for the remainder of the season.



yeah the fan bonus, for championship and demotion is big imho it is bigger then the effect on the survey seem to tell you a rather good sesaon without a title may give you still 4-5 ball but the difference is huge.

Also the difference of a lost last game is much bigger, then of any other point in the survey.

So we can see what important for the fans, but there are also difference priority for the number of visitors then just the average of all those points. If i tell it like that it sound indeed broke ;)

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219104.33 in reply to 219104.30
Date: 6/12/2012 10:15:57 AM
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but it can definately get tweaked and i would be happpy if the BB do it with less effect on the last game and some differences betwen win and lose.

+1

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219104.35 in reply to 219104.34
Date: 6/12/2012 10:27:55 AM
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Demotion/promotion bonuses and game attendance are two different things, really. You'll have less season ticket holders and therefore less attendance if you demote (and vice versa if you promote). However, individual game attendance will also vary depending on the overall fan survey.


i had mostly 4-4,5 balls, as a champion but roughly 60k more visitor income next season compapared to a runner up season with 4 balls. Going back there to, or compare it to another teams of the league another small difference don't make nearly that much difference and behave nearly the same(maybe 5-10k each game) The same get reported from team who stay in the division, in the second season quite frequently that they get less money with quite comparable survey and don't get close to the value even with a good first season.

The same goes afaik for nearly relegated teams who make a turnaround, vs good team who are demoted.

You realize that the last game is pretty much the only thing that changes between each calculation of the fan survey, right?


sometimes those last game is also a tv and/or a rival game, the result of that don't have the huge impact on the fan support like the last game.(maybe when it is tv and rival togeether, but even then i would rate the effect lower)

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