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... an advantage that I currently have over these lesser managers ...

When someone gets accustomed to the illogical aspects of this game, and has learned to work around them, this sort of attitude is sure to develop. The illogical aspects become institutionalized, and the game stagnates.

New managers rebel not because experienced managers are playing the game better; that is to be expected at first. New managers rebel at the illogic of it.

If it was easy to manage all these minutes, there would no longer be any skill to training good players.

Here is the other argument that is used to defend the illogical because it is the status quo. Of course, it is a specious argument. There is nothing to prevent logical training programming from being challenging.

Last edited by Mike Franks at 5/18/2015 12:45:18 AM

Whilst this is merit in having a new set of eyes look upon problems, which is extremely valuable and I see this every day in my work - a LOT of the time there are valid reasons why some things exist. An understanding and appreciation of the problem and how it works and why it works, is more important that a new set of eyes.

So whilst there is merit in your statement, it doesn't fly with me.

The attitude that I took when I was a new manager, was to embrace the game as it was, and it try and understand it... why? Why is it so hard to do training? ohhhh I get it now, I have to do blah blah blah and blah.... ahhh that makes sense.... hmmm I didn't get 48 mins? why? hmmm... lets read some forums, oh garbage time, hmmm, lets see if there is a way around that... hmmmm. could be tricky, etc etc etc.

you get my point though?

Sometimes when someone says "This is wrong fix it" it is the same as someone coming in saying "This is too hard I don't want to spend the time learning it and understand it, therefore there must be something wrong, fix it"

I guess both your opinions are out now, let the BBs decide what they do with it. But, please, no need to continue to cheaply attack each other, it doesn't help the suggestion thread.

But it is mildly hilarious.

I seem to be one of the few managers out here, but I actually like the training system as it is. It is challenging, true. But isn't that the beauty?

If it was easy to manage all these minutes, there would no longer be any skill to training good players. In the current system it is about being smart, making choices and setting priorities. Are you going to train one player? Two? Three? Maybe even more on 2 pos. training? You're the manager, you can decide, but the game decides the conditions. That is the way it should be.

Don't kid yourself though, there are major options available. After all, the problems you face as a manager has the same influence on all the other managers out there. It is all about a competitive advantage in this game, not about the perfect result. So next time you loose a minute or so on one of your trainees, keep in mind that it just happens sometimes, and that your goal should be to loose less minutes than the other training managers, that is what makes a winner. You only have to be better than the rest. Not perfect.

This game is designed to be competitive and the current system of training fits perfectly in it.
I wish everyone good luck with their training!

Bolleboosje for the win!

Perhaps I should elaborate and basically state that I agree with everything written above.


Last edited by Iguanadon Joe at 5/19/2015 1:55:49 AM

It's not a decision and choice that any manager should have to make because the decision is hindered by an unreasonable aspect of the game.

As to why it's unreasonable, I think I really explained it.

So, essentially what it comes down to, is that the most amazing possible training minutes imaginable are expected to be delivered when asked. 100% of the time. Signed, sealed, delivered.

The possibility of training 3 players in one position training exists, as does the possibility of training 6 players in two position training, but neither of those things are guaranteed.

In fact, those are sort of the penultimate achievements. So why does everyone keep thinking it's a given? It's the best gosh darn scenario possible. Thus, everyone can't achieve this feat all the time. Certainly, the GE should never be fashioned in a way to arrive at this outcome with ease.

Yup signed sealed and delivered by the manager of the team to the coaches. Afterall there is a priviledge to owning the franchise, the team, the players and the training staff.

Training, just as the rest of the game, is competitive (and aimed at the possibility to deliver a competitive advantage). What is competitive about it if everyone can simply fill it in and get the exact result that they want? In this case NT's will start to exist solely out of the better draft pick and training can be done by anyone. Wouldn't that defy the purpose of the game? Where you as a manager make the difference?

I can see why the current system often is overshadowed by frustration by many managers, by once again, people should be happy that this way they can be better than their neighbors and not simply on the same level as everyone else.

So, essentially what it comes down to, is that the most amazing possible training minutes imaginable are expected to be delivered when asked. 100% of the time. Signed, sealed, delivered.

If you can't restate someone's position any better than that, you might as well step to the sidelines and keep it zipped. No one but you said any such thing.

So, essentially what it comes down to, is that the most amazing possible training minutes imaginable are expected to be delivered when asked. 100% of the time. Signed, sealed, delivered.

If you can't restate someone's position any better than that, you might as well step to the sidelines and keep it zipped. No one but you said any such thing.

People post about this all the time. They want a setting that will ensure max'd out training minutes.
More specifically, they want existing settings to be changed so they will ensure max'd out training minutes.