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After all these statistics of Ronaldo I remain further Messi's fan.

Of course because stats also say that Messi is the better player. He didn't show Messi's stats, but when he beat Real the other night he scored his 500th goal with Barcelona a number that Ronaldo will never equal for Madrid.

The only people who say Ronaldo is better than Messi are pretty much:
a) Portuguese people
b) Real Madrid fans

When people will look back at these 2 it will be exactly like LeBron and Durant. Both MVPs, both all time great talents, but only one in the conversation for greatest of all time. Really Messi is the only player who will be in the conversation with Pele and Maradona.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 4/26/2017 6:34:01 PM

F group, last game vs Hungary. He scored 2 goals to tie the match and qualify Portugal.
1/2 Final, he opened the score vs. Welsh winning the eliminatory.

Re-read the names dude. Freaking Hungary and Wales. WALES!!!

It's like hailing LeBron James for leading the troops in the sweep against the Pistons last season. Really? Hungary and Wales...

You can prefer Bulls or Lakers, but only C´s the best franchise:)

Greatest franchise ever are the Lakers. They have more banners AND you do not need history books to look up their success. Yeah C's had a dynasty in the 60s when winning was a lot easier, a bit like Real in the 50s.

Cristiano "little" performance

Man, I proved that he scores less than Morata (and, of course both Messi and Suarez), while you claimed he's the best striker in the world...I did the math for you!!!!


La Liga: 2011–12; ok
UEFA Champions League: 2013–14, 2015–16; ok
Copa del Rey: 2010–11, 2013–14; third rate competition
Supercopa de España: 2012; third rate competition
UEFA Super Cup: 2014; second rate competition
FIFA Club World Cup: 2014, 2016; third rate competition

Messi:
La Liga: 2004–05, 2005–06, 2008–09, 2009–10, 2010–11, 2012–13, 2014–15, 2015–16
UEFA Champions League: 2005–06, 2008–09, 2010–11, 2014–15
I do not list second and third rate competitions which only count on paper and nothing else. Messi leads in those too, for good measure.

From the time Ronaldo went to Madrid, Messi won 5x titles to Ronaldo's 1. This is the difference between the 2: 5 to 1

Last edited by Lemonshine at 4/26/2017 7:02:29 PM

FIFA Ballon d'Or: 2013, 2014

Messi:
FIFA Ballon d'Or: 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2015

That's all you need to remember. Until Ronaldo has the same number of Ballon d'Or as Messi he's not in the same conversation. If a miracle happens and he ties the total tally, then we can talk about the rest of his third, fourth or 5th rate awards like those from Portugal or those which have nothing to do with football.

Dude did you even read your own list? BBC personality of the year???? Media attraction??????????


Last edited by Lemonshine at 4/26/2017 7:53:42 PM

Orders

PRT Order of Prince Henry - Officer BAR.png Officer of the Order of Prince Henry[585]
PRT Ordem de Nossa Senhora da Conceicao de Vila Vicosa Cavaleiro ribbon.svg Medal of Merit, Order of the Immaculate Conception of Vila Viçosa (House of Bragança)[586]
PRT Order of Prince Henry - Grand Officer BAR.png Grand officer of the Order of Prince Henry[587]
POR Ordem do Merito Comendador BAR.svg Commander of the Order of Merit[588]

lol

How desperate are you? Comendador? Officer of the Order of Prince Henry? PRT of the Order of the Immaculate Conception????????? Do you read what you post?

The most expensive footballer in history: 2009–2013[589] lol
First footballer to reach 40 goals in a professional league for two consecutive seasons[592]ok
Only player to score in every minute of an official football game[240] lol
Only player to win the League title, Domestic Cup, Domestic Supercup, Champions League, Club World Cup, League Player of the Year, Golden Shoe and Ballon d'Or at two different clubs (Manchester United and Real Madrid)[593][594]gotta thank sir Alex, Rooney and Giggsy
Only player to win the League title, Domestic Cup, Domestic Supercup, Champions League, Club World Cup, League Player of the Year, Golden Shoe and Ballon d'Or at two different league (England Premier League and La Liga)[595][596] gotta thank sir Alex, Rooney and Giggsy
First and only player to appear in the FIFPro World XI for two different clubs. lol
Only player to have won more than one FIFA Club World Cup Silver Ball.[598] lol
Guinness World Record for Most Liked Person on Facebook: 2015[458] lol
Only player in the world who has scored in 7 consecutive major international tournaments : the 2004, 2008, 2012 and 2016 editions of the European Championship; and the 2006, 2010 and 2014 editions of the World Cup.[599] ok

Messi
Most Ballons d'Or (including FIFA World Player of the Year and FIFA Ballon d'Or): 5 (2009–12, 2015)
Most consecutive Ballons d'Or: 4
Youngest two-time and three-time Ballon d'Or winner: 23 and 24 years old
Top goalscorer in all club competitions in a calendar year: 79 goals in 2012
Top goalscorer in all club competitions in a season: 73 goals in 2011–12
Longest goalscoring run in a domestic league: 21 matches, 33 goals in 2012–13
Only player to have won more than one FIFA Club World Cup Golden Ball.

The guy scored 73 goals in a season and you talk about Ronaldo being a better goal scorer????????????



Last edited by Lemonshine at 4/26/2017 7:54:20 PM

This year he started playing late La Liga, he was injured for several weeks from the Euro.
I don´t know why do you take out penalties. It´s possible that as Cristiano has better % than Messi you have to equilibrate it.
I repeat, Messi is a great player but Cristiano is even better. I don´t need to underestimate Messi as Cris haters do.
But if you compare both player records in Champions League, after groups phase, there is no comparision.

Aaah the injuries! Look, if you get Morata to take those penalties he will look much better than Ronaldo. He'd have 18 goals on 21 games which would in fact place him second behind Messi for goals/game.

Without penalties:
Messi has now scored 29 goals and 40 goals+assist in 30 games. 0.967 average per game
Suarez is just behind 24 goals and 38 goals+ assist in 32 games. 0.774 average
Ronaldo 13 goals and 19 goals+assists in 25 games. 0.520 average
Morata!!!! 12 goals and 15 goals+assists in 21 game. 0.571 average
Data: transfermarkt.com

Conclusion:
Morata is a more efficient striker than Ronaldo. He's also 24 while Ronaldo is 32.
Also both Messi and Suarez are substantially better forwards than Ronaldo this season.

I´d like him to play for Spain and i´m sure he´d led England to get a tittle.

You'd love Iniesta and the rest of the Barcelona players to carry him to championships? I see, but he doesn't need that, his Portuguese teammates were good enough to win the final in the Euros without him.

England would not win anything with Ronaldo all the same.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 4/26/2017 7:46:36 PM

Good luck with this one lol :D

Anyone can take meaningless lines from Wikipedia without even bothering to read what he's copying and pasting.

However even there, you can see that the list of accomplishments and awards for Messi are substantially more than Ronaldo.

Messi or Ronaldo??
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ISCO 😍

Yes, if they start Morata, Isco and Asensio, instead of Ronaldo, Bale and Benzema maybe they don't lose the last game.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 4/26/2017 8:02:27 PM

Hahaha
Was the same question ten years ago with Robinho and others before. Is better Robinho or Messi? is better ? or Messi
Allways Messi. Not discursion.